Jeff Duncan on Sean Payton 2023 (3 Viewers)

[Double_e]

No expert but I truly believe that’s the case. Hopefully doesn’t come to that as I’d love to have him back, or if not, have some good picks for him this next season.

With you on both fronts.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Sadly it’s hard to know sometimes who really buys into all that conspiracy stuff. Yes, there is plenty of reason for frustration this year. I’m right there with you.

You are a favorite poster of mine. I’m glad you really understand.

Guess Cam buys into it too. Lol


I’m not butthurt at all about it, but stats have shown for years that the Saints get treated like crap…officiating wise. Literally stats to back it up. Over and over. That’s not a conspiracy theory to me but to each their own.

 

[Saintcd]

And another fine is incoming for Cam for being truthful.

 

[DerrickB]

Jeff Duncan will be on Eric Asher show today on 106.1 nash which starts at 4pm cst. I assume its gonna be about his article.

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I just listened to the segment. Apparently, It's an option that's on the table. Still a long shot, though.

 

[Saint Spud]

I just listened to the segment. Apparently, It's an option that's on the table. Still a long shot, though.

Yeah, the vibe I get is that he wants to coach, and he will evaluate all openings (and has already been evaluating options).

He’ll make a decision based on what’s available. He will absolutely consider the Saints IF there’s an opening. But there are no guarantees.

It stinks because I have very little faith in Loomis moving on from Allen after one year, because I think we would instantly be his top choice, regardless of how people perceive the roster.

 

[DavidM]

Yeah, the vibe I get is that he wants to coach, and he will evaluate all openings (and has already been evaluating options).

He’ll make a decision based on what’s available. He will absolutely consider the Saints IF there’s an opening. But there are no guarantees.

It stinks because I have very little faith in Loomis moving on from Allen after one year, because I think we would instantly be his top choice, regardless of how people perceive the roster.

I don't know, as close as Payton and Loomis are, if there was an opportunity to bring Payton back, I don't think Loomis would hesitate to part ways with Allen. Even setting aside the relationships, it would be too obvious of an upgrade to pass on.

But, I'm really skeptical that there is anything to the possibility that Payton would return to New Orleans.

 

[DaveXA]

Yeah, the vibe I get is that he wants to coach, and he will evaluate all openings (and has already been evaluating options).

He’ll make a decision based on what’s available. He will absolutely consider the Saints IF there’s an opening. But there are no guarantees.

It stinks because I have very little faith in Loomis moving on from Allen after one year, because I think we would instantly be his top choice, regardless of how people perceive the roster.

I'm skeptical Allen getting dumped after one season happens, but if it did, it wouldn't be that shocking. They did it to SVG after 1 season with the Pels, so who knows?

 

[Saintslfc13]

I don't know, as close as Payton and Loomis are, if there was an opportunity to bring Payton back, I don't think Loomis would hesitate to part ways with Allen. Even setting aside the relationships, it would be too obvious of an upgrade to pass on.

But, I'm really skeptical that there is anything to the possibility that Payton would return to New Orleans.

I'm skeptical too, but I was skeptical, to the point of openly mocking the idea, when the noise started about him leaving happened and we all know what a kick in the genitalia that turned out to be. As far as Loomis goes I don't think he can afford to not bring Payton back if he wants back in to be honest. I think Gayle outright said when Sean first broke the news her response was to take a long vacation and think about it after, if that isn't confirmed it was certainly rumored. Loomis also isn't an idiot and knows fan expectations with Allen will be in the gutter, one guy even went so far as to tell him that at a public appearance. Unless he thinks he has a better option than Payton that isn't Dennis Allen he'd be in for loads of criticism by choosing not to bring him back.

 

[SaintsFan11]

I'm skeptical too, but I was skeptical, to the point of openly mocking the idea, when the noise started about him leaving happened and we all know what a kick in the genitalia that turned out to be. As far as Loomis goes I don't think he can afford to not bring Payton back if he wants back in to be honest. I think Gayle outright said when Sean first broke the news her response was to take a long vacation and think about it after, if that isn't confirmed it was certainly rumored. Loomis also isn't an idiot and knows fan expectations with Allen will be in the gutter, one guy even went so far as to tell him that at a public appearance. Unless he thinks he has a better option than Payton that isn't Dennis Allen he'd be in for loads of criticism by choosing not to bring him back.

I think Gayle in particular has her ear to the ground when it comes to New Orleans. Yes, she'll probably ultimately defer to Bensel and Loomis if they go to bat for Dennis Allen, but I just don't see Gayle wanting to enter next season with negative energy. So I think Allen will be gone. Whether Payton will be back, that's entirely different. Hopefully, Jeff Duncan is on to something. Not homing my breath, but crossing my fingers.

 

[NewOrleansBoy]

If Payton does for reason come back, then what was the whole point of this but losing a good DC?

 

[Brennan77]

I have to say that I initially though this was clickbait from Duncan. However, after some consideration, twitter responses from Underhill, and radio interviews this afternoon, someone is behind this and it's quite intentional.

 

[Brennan77]

If Payton does for reason come back, then what was the whole point of this but losing a good DC?

This is the big question. It was clear from the beginning that Payton wasn't retiring or taking a break. He wanted to coach.

 

[DSnfla]

Unfortunately, as it stands right now the FO may be leaning for another yr for DA, I said as it stands now. if We lose 3 or 4 of the last 4 then they have to make a move. Now my thoughts are the same as when LSU had Les Miles at the end. We all know DA needs to go it's as plain as the nose on the face. And he needs to go at the end of the season or before but that's probably only gonna happen if he pretty much loses out.
I never willingly pull for us to lose but it sure is a tough call

 

[Saint Jack]

I think Gayle in particular has her ear to the ground when it comes to New Orleans. Yes, she'll probably ultimately defer to Bensel and Loomis if they go to bat for Dennis Allen, but I just don't see Gayle wanting to enter next season with negative energy. So I think Allen will be gone. Whether Payton will be back, that's entirely different. Hopefully, Jeff Duncan is on to something. Not homing my breath, but crossing my fingers.

The general public isn’t dumb. They know when a team is in transition or rebuilding or rebooting or whatever you wanna call it.
Gayle knows what naming a new HC can do. It can create hope.
She’s seen it when Van Gundy was fired after 1 season and moved onto Green.

 

[Bill]

If Payton does for reason come back, then what was the whole point of this but losing a good DC?

The bottom line is that Sean Payton was burned out. He needed to get away from coaching even though coaching is in his blood and he equates success & happiness with coaching.

Personally I have to believe that having been a newly married man played a role in his decision. But I also believe he always knew he'd coach again, somewhere. However, I don't believe the option to coach the Saints again was ever in his plans. Maybe he really thought Allen would have success as the Saints new skipper.

That said, I had to wonder how he felt this year watching his beloved team turn into a laughingstock & a dumpster fire. He HAD to be imagining what he would do to fix all the problems as they unfolded throughout the season. Does that translate into actually WANTING to take these matters back into his own hands? I still believe that's unlikely. But it's not impossible that he could be so moved.

While every Saints fan would adore a Sean Reunion, it's probably best not to start getting your hopes up. How much sadder it's going to be for Saints fans to watch Sean don another team's coaching cap after convincing themselves that the Saints are actually in the Payton Sweepstakes.