Jeff Duncan on Sean Payton 2023 (1 Viewer)

[Saint Spud]

I am guessing the OP was talking more about pull as in Jerry Jones/Robert Kraft type pull. But unfortunately I think that has more to do with the markets they are in than anything.

I get it. I just think if you’re looking at an owner, Mrs B checks more important boxes for what SP is looking for.

Just saying looking at her being “weak” is extremely unfair and not really pertinent to what SP has made it clear he’s looking for. In fact, I kinda think SP likes being the modern Al Davis, thorn-in-Goodell’s side.

 

[SaintRob]

Right.

He can also wait until he contract runs out, which I believe is the following year and sign where he pleases.

Theoretically, that's after the 2024 season - two more seasons. However, when Arians "retired" from Arizona, he sat out the final year on that contract - 2018. Then when Tampa wanted to hire him in 2019, the Cardinals said that they retained his rights and Tampa had to send a 6th round pick to get his rights because Arians was never officially terminated with time remaining on his contract. I think the same would hold true with Payton. The longer Payton is away from coaching, I believe the value of pick compensation goes down though.

 

[Saint Spud]

Theoretically, that's after the 2024 season - two more seasons. However, when Arians "retired" from Arizona, he sat out the final year on that contract - 2018. Then when Tampa wanted to hire him in 2019, the Cardinals said that they retained his rights and Tampa had to send a 6th round pick to get his rights because Arians was never officially terminated with time remaining on his contract. I think the same would hold true with Payton. The longer Payton is away from coaching, I believe the value of pick compensation goes down though.

I agree here.

I’ve yet to see concrete confirmation on this. But nearly all contracts are written for services rendered over a period of time.

If you’re not actually doing the job, then simply running out the clock wouldn’t fulfill the contract. There would have to be some specific clauses on that.

 

[WhoGeaux]

Time just expiring out on his deal may not be how this works, unless the Saints allow it to happen. The Saints can easily contest that the duration of their rights to him continue to remain the same no matter how long he sits out. The rights are frozen in time.

 

[SaintKenn]

Sean isn't going to sit out for more than a year. I think the plan was already in place when we used our first pick this year to trade up and grab Olave. We knew that we could recoup that pick with Sean's trade. The bad thing is no one saw it as a top 5 pick, there were playoff aspirations. We see how that's play out. The #1 landing spot in S.D. is currently the holder of the 20th pick, yuck. We need the Jets or N.E. to jump them and that way we at least are guaranteed the 18th pick. A guy like Andre Carter would be there and if you have an opportunity to draft him, you run up the podium with that selection. Get a Minshew, or heck, Dalton for one more year and make a huge push to draft Williams in 24. Then we have Caleb Williams, a still young Kamara, Olave, Shaheed, and a decently young offensive line in front of em. That can be some great building blocks for our future and remain as a contender with only 2 down years in between a coaching regime change as Jim Harbaugh leads us in to the future.

 

[ChopperSaint]

Someone trying to sale paywall subs

 

[Merleaux]

Sadly it’s hard to know sometimes who really buys into all that conspiracy stuff. Yes, there is plenty of reason for frustration this year. I’m right there with you.

You are a favorite poster of mine. I’m glad you really understand.

Oh wow, how nice of you!! Again thanks for being understanding and kind with your critique.

 

[ilvdsnts]

It’s not about letting them go, Nielsen and Richard aren’t simply going to accept being demoted from their current role for a guy who failed. They’d both choose to leave, or look incredibly weak. There isn’t any business where someone gets promoted to the top job then demoted after a year like nothing happened.

Unless everyone in the building knew CSP was going on a temp. sabatical and coming back and took the promotion knowing it was temporary.

 

[EGLSShin]

Jeff Duncan will be on Eric Asher show today on 106.1 nash which starts at 4pm cst. I assume its gonna be about his article.

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[DSnfla]

Right.

He can also wait until he contract runs out, which I believe is the following year and sign where he pleases.

That has not been determined. Most think if he were to try and do that it would end up in court.

 

[JackDiesel]

Or maybe he goes to a team with a competent QB, two all pro DE and a weak division like the AFC west where he can become the next Bill B and dominate a weak division.


Much like Payton did his entire career in NOLA, smokescreens to drive up the narrative he wants

AFC West is weak? Um the Chiefs play in that division and have owned it for the last 6 years. Chargers haven't won it in over a decade. Payton will never be able to dominate it as long as Mahomes is playing.

NFC West is an even rougher division.

There literally isn't a worse division in football than the NFC South and Brady is about to leave Tampa a wreck. The only game we were truly outclassed in was against the Ravens, a competent coach would have this QBless team rolling. And we all saw what he was able to do with two of the QB's that's already on the team.

 

[EGLSShin]

Duncan will be on Matt Moscona next on 100.3 espn radio. If anyones interested.

 

[Saviorbrees]

Duncan will be on Matt Moscona next on 100.3 espn radio. If anyones interested.

Give us the cliff notes

 

[EGLSShin]

Give us the cliff notes

He is open to coming back but has also explored all his options. He has broken down the Saints moves this year, front office decisions, coaching on the field, evaluated players but also has done this with several other teams. Can't move forward without deciding on head coach, whether to move on from DA. Duncan attended a media lunch with Saints brass and they poked fun of him for his article.