Jeff Duncan on Sean Payton 2023 (4 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

I was just thinking if Payton is coming back to New Orleans why wouldn't he wait until the 2024 season?
We'll be in better cap situation, and at the top of the draft.

I think he's got the itch back to coach and he's ready. And everyone here would be willing to give him a mulligan next season to get back on track by the 24 season. I'm fully expecting 23 to be a rebuilding year no matter who's coaching. The front office and the team needs a reset imo. 23 is the year to clear the cap issues, get some fresh blood and work on developing the talent we have and have a full complement of picks the following offseason. It will take some time, but will be time well spent.

 

[Saviorbrees]

I wonder if he would be interested in one of the teams without a decent quarterback if Brady went with him ?

I wonder if he would be interested in one of the teams without a decent quarterback if Brady went with him ?

i think that’s prolly only way he comes back here. If him and Brady have a deal behind closed doors

 

[Saint Spud]

I think he's got the itch back to coach and he's ready. And everyone here would be willing to give him a mulligan next season to get back on track by the 24 season. I'm fully expecting 23 to be a rebuilding year no matter who's coaching. The front office and the team needs a reset imo. 23 is the year to clear the cap issues, get some fresh blood and work on developing the talent we have and have a full complement of picks the following offseason. It will take some time, but will be time well spent.

Interesting thing to me is that SP made no secret of how much he loves Caleb Williams. He even said he wouldn’t be surprised if teams tanked for him.

I’d be fine going full tank in 2023 with SP restoring the culture and then getting Williams.

 

[DaveXA]

Interesting thing to me is that SP made no secret of how much he loves Caleb Williams. He even said he wouldn’t be surprised if teams tanked for him.

I’d be fine going full tank in 2023 with SP restoring the culture and then getting Williams.

I think full tank is a risky proposition tho. There's no guarantee it works and it certainly wouldn't be conducive to reestablishing that winning tradition he was known for. I'm not necessarily opposed to it but I just think Patyon has too much pride to do it that way.

 

[PHSaint518]

Payton asked Jeff Duncan to put this story out there in order to raise his own value with other suitors like the Cowboys, Chargers, Cardinals. Why aren't the Saints putting a cabash on it? Because it helps them to raise his value. Payton had every opportunity to take a one year break from coaching and then come back to the Saints. Instead, he created a parade. I don't think anyone is going to want him unless it's the Cowboys.

I’ve seen a few people say this but I really don’t understand how it’s in Payton’s interest to put his price up and leave the team he goes to with less draft picks. I’m not sure a Jeff Duncan article is really going to have much of an affect anyway, if that was Payton’s intention why not have someone like Glazer put this out?

 

[EGLSShin]

 

[Saint Spud]

Really good discussion. They both agree at the beginning that it feels like a long shot, but also give some compelling reasons why it’s not completely unreasonable either.

Also some other good nuggets about how “people close to Payton” operate and how their previous leaked info has borne out.

 

[DaveXA]

Payton asked Jeff Duncan to put this story out there in order to raise his own value with other suitors like the Cowboys, Chargers, Cardinals. Why aren't the Saints putting a cabash on it? Because it helps them to raise his value. Payton had every opportunity to take a one year break from coaching and then come back to the Saints. Instead, he created a parade. I don't think anyone is going to want him unless it's the Cowboys.

I don't buy that at all. Dallas is hardly the only team out there who would want him. There are clearly other teams who would make good offers for his services. He's gonna be one of the most sought after coaches this offseason.

Payton had his reasons for leaving. I really don't much care what they were. Doesn't really matter at this point. He has some decisions to make and that includes whether he goes back to the Saints, or pushes for a trade to another team.

The Saints front office should and I think will make a play to get the most out of a trade or make an offer to keep him on board with an extension. He's gonna make a mint either way.

I'd prefer he return and coach with us because it solves a lot of issues on the coaching side and maybe it helps restore the players' confidence in the organization.

That said, if he goes elsewhere, then getting a good trade offer has to be top priority.

 

[Clintonrebel]

Please please don’t get my hopes up and crush me.

 

[SaintsFan11]

So Rapoport confirms Duncan’s report through his own independent reporting. Will people stop dumping on him now or nah?

Did Rapoport confirm Duncan’s reporting? Or merely cite it?

I guess if we want SP back we need to root for Dallas and San Diego. He was linked to Arizona as well, but there’s no point in rooting for them—they’re done.

I’ve never heard that he would be interested in the Rams. When it comes to future draft capital, they make us look like the NFL’s version of the Pelicans. They also have a QB who looks just about done. That said, there’s talk that McVay has his eye on the broadcast booth, so that job may come open. He can win a Super Bowl with Herbert. Not sure if he can do it with the Rams.

Edit: But the Rams don't have a first this year and need to conserve their draft picks in any event.

 

[Saint Spud]

Did Rapoport confirm Duncan’s reporting? Or merely cite it?

I guess if we want SP back we need to root for Dallas and San Diego. He was linked to Arizona as well, but there’s no point in rooting for them—they’re done.

I’ve never heard that he would be interested in the Rams. When it comes to future draft capital, they make us look like the NFL’s version of the Pelicans. They also have a QB who looks just about done. That said, there’s talk that McVay has his eye on the broadcast booth, so that job may come open. He can win a Super Bowl with Herbert. Not sure if he can do it with the Rams.

Edit: But the Rams don't have a first this year and need to conserve their draft picks in any event.

Listen to the report. He confirmed it independently.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Did Rapoport confirm Duncan’s reporting? Or merely cite it?

I guess if we want SP back we need to root for Dallas and San Diego. He was linked to Arizona as well, but there’s no point in rooting for them—they’re done.

I’ve never heard that he would be interested in the Rams. When it comes to future draft capital, they make us look like the NFL’s version of the Pelicans. They also have a QB who looks just about done. That said, there’s talk that McVay has his eye on the broadcast booth, so that job may come open. He can win a Super Bowl with Herbert. Not sure if he can do it with the Rams.

Edit: But the Rams don't have a first this year and need to conserve their draft picks in any event.

Would the Chargers really fire Staley if they make the playoffs? Their remaining schedule (vs. Titans, at Colts, vs. Rams, & at Broncos) suggests that they should make the playoffs compared to the Patriots schedule. Seems like they’d have to give those games away and play down to the level of those teams to go less than 3-1 or 4-0 during that stretch and 10-7 or 11-6 overall.

Assuming the Chargers make the playoffs and Cardinals keep Kingsbury 9 months after giving him an extension, it’s more than likely that there won’t be any openings for Payton to coach elsewhere. The Rams don’t have the assets to trade, plus McVay’s extension. Staley has to practically lay down and blow those games to lose his job.

Potential openings are heavily dependent on one coach walking away, another coach falling apart and those teams owners willing to just eat their coaches’ new extension money and give up first round draft picks while doing so.

 

[Chopper Man]

He is not free to go anywhere except to the Saints if he wants to come back next season. The Saints would have to allow him to go somewhere else and that price tag is high.

 

[Saint Jack]

Would the Chargers really fire Staley if they make the playoffs? Their remaining schedule (vs. Titans, at Colts, vs. Rams, & at Broncos) suggests that they should make the playoffs compared to the Patriots schedule. Seems like they’d have to give those games away and play down to the level of those teams to go less than 3-1 or 4-0 during that stretch and 10-7 or 11-6 overall.

Assuming the Chargers make the playoffs and Cardinals keep Kingsbury 9 months after giving him an extension, it’s more than likely that there won’t be any openings for Payton to coach elsewhere. The Rams don’t have the assets to trade, plus McVay’s extension. Staley has to practically lay down and blow those games to lose his job.

Potential openings are heavily dependent on one coach walking away, another coach falling apart and those teams owners willing to just eat their coaches’ new extension money and give up first round draft picks while doing so.

The Chargers did fire Marty S. after going 14-2.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

The Chargers did fire Marty S. after going 14-2.

True. Marty was around for a while though. He had a lot of one-and-done’s as HC on different teams.

Staley’s a first time HC, who’s only 40 years old. I’d be shocked if they gave up on him so early, even if it’s for Payton. He’s on the verge of making the playoffs in year 2 after finishing 9-8 in his first year. I think Herbert can keep progressing with Lombardi as his OC while the Chargers add more good players.