Jeff Duncan on Sean Payton 2023 (4 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

Sean Payton eyeing one of these three NFL teams for possible coaching return in 2023, per report

Payton would reportedly prefer to coach somewhere close to his home in Los Angeles

www.cbssports.com

Not really anything new, but still an interesting read.

 

[Saint Jack]

Not really anything new, but still an interesting read.

I think it may be between the Chargers and the Saints.
The Rams are in worse shape than the Saints and McCarthy prolly bought himself another year.

 

[Saint Spud]

Sean Payton eyeing one of these three NFL teams for possible coaching return in 2023, per report

Payton would reportedly prefer to coach somewhere close to his home in Los Angeles

www.cbssports.com

So Rapoport confirms Duncan’s report through his own independent reporting. Will people stop dumping on him now or nah?

 

[No2DC]

So Rapoport confirms Duncan’s report through his own independent reporting. Will people stop dumping on him now or nah?

As much as I like the idea of getting rid of DA, do we really want Payton playing come and go like this? I hate to use a relationship analogy, but it's like an ex returning after leaving. Yes, you two had something special, but he chose to leave and considered other options.

 

[Saint Spud]

As much as I like the idea of getting rid of DA, do we really want Payton playing come and go like this? I hate to use a relationship analogy, but it's like an ex returning after leaving. Yes, you two had something special, but he chose to leave and considered other options.

Yes. We absolutely want one of the top 2-3 head coaches in the NFL.

 

[DavidM]

A couple of things that stand about the current reporting:

Assuming this is based on credible information, It sounds like New Orleans is currently only a fallback plan if one of the LA teams doesn't pan out. As much I'd like to have him back, not sure how to feel about that, given the rumors he had tried to part ways with the Saints on a couple of other occasions.

If he did return, have to consider the possibility he finishes out the remaining two years on his current deal, without agreeing to an extension, then is free to go wherever he wants at that point without compensation to the team. Something I hadn't considered before but what happens to his rights if Payton expresses an interest in returning and the Saints pass on re-employing him? Is there a scenario here where he can force the team into either hiring him back or cutting him loose?

 

[No2DC]

Yes. We absolutely want one of the top 2-3 head coaches in the NFL.

I'm not questioning his ability as a coach, I'm questioning his commitment to the future. Those are two different things.

 

[EGLSShin]

A couple of things that stand about the current reporting:

Assuming this is based on credible information, It sounds like New Orleans is currently only a fallback plan if one of the LA teams doesn't pan out. As much I'd like to have him back, not sure how to feel about that, given the rumors he had tried to part ways with the Saints on a couple of other occasions.

If he did return, have to consider the possibility he finishes out the remaining two years on his current deal, without agreeing to an extension, then is free to go wherever he wants at that point without compensation to the team. Something I hadn't considered before but what happens to his rights if Payton expresses an interest in returning and the Saints pass on re-employing him? Is there a scenario here where he can force the team into either hiring him back or cutting him loose?

I don't think you bring him back without an extension and maybe offering something more to ensure he coaches for awhile longer.

 

[Saint Spud]

A couple of things that stand about the current reporting:

Assuming this is based on credible information, It sounds like New Orleans is currently only a fallback plan if one of the LA teams doesn't pan out. As much I'd like to have him back, not sure how to feel about that, given the rumors he had tried to part ways with the Saints on a couple of other occasions.

If he did return, have to consider the possibility he finishes out the remaining two years on his current deal, without agreeing to an extension, then is free to go wherever he wants at that point without compensation to the team. Something I hadn't considered before but what happens to his rights if Payton expresses an interest in returning and the Saints pass on re-employing him? Is there a scenario here where he can force the team into either hiring him back or cutting him loose?

All of that is very fair.

My read is that he will evaluate every opening based on its own merits. His relationship with Loomis and Mrs B and knowledge of the organization would be a huge plus.

But…

Having a QB like Herbert would obviously be a huge(er?) plus, too. Maybe bigger than anything a return to NO could offer.

The Rams would be somewhere in between. If he really wants LA, he would inherit a roster which has fallen off a cliff just as much (more?) than ours and has fewer assets to work with. So he would mostly just want to live in LA. Not to mention, the compensation we would get would be bleh.

I don’t mind being a fallback in any of those scenarios. If we’re being honest, we wouldn’t be as attractive as the Chargers job.

And if you remember…we were a fallback to Green Bay for SP the first time around. That worked out okay.

 

[Saint Spud]

I'm not questioning his ability as a coach, I'm questioning his commitment to the future. Those are two different things.

Worry about the future later. If he leaves again, at least we will have had a year or two to restore what DA broke in a short period of time.

 

[Saint Jack]

All of that is very fair.

My read is that he will evaluate every opening based on its own merits. His relationship with Loomis and Mrs B and knowledge of the organization would be a huge plus.

But…

Having a QB like Herbert would obviously be a huge(er?) plus, too. Maybe bigger than anything a return to NO could offer.

The Rams would be somewhere in between. If he really wants LA, he would inherit a roster which has fallen off a cliff just as much (more?) than ours and has fewer assets to work with. So he would mostly just want to live in LA. Not to mention, the compensation we would get would be bleh.

I don’t mind being a fallback in any of those scenarios. If we’re being honest, we wouldn’t be as attractive as the Chargers job.

And if you remember…we were a fallback to Green Bay for SP the first time around. That worked out okay.

The only reason to go to the Rams would be to cash a paycheck. They are in worse shape in a waaay tougher division.

 

[DavidM]

I don't think you bring him back without an extension and maybe offering something more to ensure he coaches for awhile longer.

Right, which is what has me wondering about how this could play out. Payton's obligation to the Saints right now is the remaining two years of his contract. He isn't obligated to sign an extension. If the team had a chance to re-employ him but chose not to without an extension, does that potentially void the remainder of his contract? (I'm asking because I don't know.)

 

[DavidM]

And if you remember…we were a fallback to Green Bay for SP the first time around. That worked out okay.

Yeah, but there are some different considerations in play this time.

 

[No2DC]

Worry about the future later. If he leaves again, at least we will have had a year or two to restore what DA broke in a short period of time.

That sounds nice in theory however, we need a long-term commitment, not a one-night stand. One of the reasons we are in the situation we are in now is the "tomorrow doesn't matter" cap management style via Loomis from Payton. If he leaves, we do not want a repeat.

 

[Saint Spud]

Yeah, but there are some different considerations in play this time.

Of course. My point is that being a “fallback” doesn’t lead to a lack of commitment.

Two years is a long time in coaching.