Just another day in New Orleans (2 Viewers)

Closing in on the Mayor, maybe.

After watching Jason skate on tax evasion, I am skeptical this will result in anything real, but who knows.



NO Safety and Permits lol.

as a commercial insurance agent for 30 years in the GNO area, having insured 100s of contractors in New Orleans, from small to very large, i can assure you that THIS isnt a one off...its systemic. All of it.
 


From the article:


NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - Former New Orleans police officer Jeffrey Vappie was indicted by a federal grand jury on Friday (July 19) on charges of wire fraud and making false statements to the FBI.

The indictment includes allegations that former NOPD Interim Superintendent Michelle Woodfork was pressured to dismiss an internal investigation into Vappie and her refusal to do so may have cost her the job.

After a Public Integrity Bureau hearing concerning his timesheets, Vappie reportedly asked Woodfork to “make it right,” when reviewing the investigation’s findings.

The indictment claims Woodfork was informed by Mayor LaToya Cantrell that she would not be nominated for the permanent superintendent. The indictment mentions an in-person meeting between Woodfork and Cantrell that Vappie was in attendance for. . .
 
And here is the article on the indictment of Vappie:


"NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - Former New Orleans police officer Jeffrey Vappie was indicted on Friday, July 19, by a federal grand jury.

Vappie faces seven counts of wire fraud for collecting money during time he drew a taxpayer salary while allegedly “he was engaged in personal activities, including carrying on a personal and romantic relationship with Public Official 1.” He also faces one count of making false statements to the FBI for denying the existence of such a relationship during the investigation. A summons has been issued for his arrest.

The 17-page indictment mentions “Public Official 1,” described as New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell, and images and messages that “utilized romantic terms of endearment and expressed their love, attraction, and affection” for each other. It alleges Vappie schemed to cover up his relationship with Cantrell, by deleting unencrypted messages between the two and submitting false timesheets for time spent together in the Upper Pontalba Apartment and while traveling.

U.S. Attorney Duane Evans says Vappie and Cantrell “developed and carried on a personal and romantic relationship” as early as November 2021. . ."




Apparently one of the things they found in his internet search history was "what is Lee Zurik's home address?"

By the way, the FBI always gets people for lying to them. That's why you never talk to the FBI.
 
And here is the article on the indictment of Vappie:


"NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - Former New Orleans police officer Jeffrey Vappie was indicted on Friday, July 19, by a federal grand jury.

Vappie faces seven counts of wire fraud for collecting money during time he drew a taxpayer salary while allegedly “he was engaged in personal activities, including carrying on a personal and romantic relationship with Public Official 1.” He also faces one count of making false statements to the FBI for denying the existence of such a relationship during the investigation. A summons has been issued for his arrest.

The 17-page indictment mentions “Public Official 1,” described as New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell, and images and messages that “utilized romantic terms of endearment and expressed their love, attraction, and affection” for each other. It alleges Vappie schemed to cover up his relationship with Cantrell, by deleting unencrypted messages between the two and submitting false timesheets for time spent together in the Upper Pontalba Apartment and while traveling.

U.S. Attorney Duane Evans says Vappie and Cantrell “developed and carried on a personal and romantic relationship” as early as November 2021. . ."




Apparently one of the things they found in his internet search history was "what is Lee Zurik's home address?"

By the way, the FBI always gets people for lying to them. That's why you never talk to the FBI.
It would shock me if Cantrell isn't next.

I would imagine Woolfork spoke out to the feds as well considering the details of that meeting.
 
It would shock me if Cantrell isn't next.

I would imagine Woolfork spoke out to the feds as well considering the details of that meeting.

The fact that Vappie got indicted means he’s not cooperating against Cantell, at least not yet. Now that he’s facing multiple felony counts he might change his mind.

But like I said above, the Jason Williams case has me doubting that the Feds can really get a conviction against Cantrell. Especially when it gets painted as criminalizing private behavior between two adults, witch hunt, blah blah blah.
 
The fact that Vappie got indicted means he’s not cooperating against Cantell, at least not yet. Now that he’s facing multiple felony counts he might change his mind.

But like I said above, the Jason Williams case has me doubting that the Feds can really get a conviction against Cantrell. Especially when it gets painted as criminalizing private behavior between two adults, witch hunt, blah blah blah.
Where's Eddie Jordan when you need him?
 
The fact that Vappie got indicted means he’s not cooperating against Cantell, at least not yet. Now that he’s facing multiple felony counts he might change his mind.

But like I said above, the Jason Williams case has me doubting that the Feds can really get a conviction against Cantrell. Especially when it gets painted as criminalizing private behavior between two adults, witch hunt, blah blah blah.

It's all fun and games until you lie to the FBI. It would not surprise me is Vappie flips on Cantrell at some point.
 
It's all fun and games until you lie to the FBI. It would not surprise me is Vappie flips on Cantrell at some point.
To paraphrase the old saying, anyone who lies to the FBI has an idiot for a lawyer.

As I've referenced before in other threads, I had the wonderful pleasure of being "interviewed" by the FBI -- thankfully, not as a target but also not as a mere bystander. Those bastages were most definitely NOT after the truth. They were after skins for the wall and merely tried to lead me to support the bullshot story they invented to make that happen. I was lucky enough to have a terrific lawyer (he had formerly worked for the independent counsel's office during Iran-Contra) and his prep for me was stellar.

In addition to the obvious of not lying to the FBI, he prepped me with information including studies of the human brain and how memory works. This includes the human brain's penchant for unconciously identifying two related, but disconnected, memories and inserting an honestly believed "memory" in between them to make a story more complete. During our prep, he taught me to pause, think, and consider whether something I thought happened was an actual memory or not, or rather whether it was something I was merely surmising based on other background knowledge. It was truly frightening when I realized how natural and how often my brain wanted to do that.

That said, the DoJ and FBI weren't happy with the hundred times I said, "I don't have an actual memory of that but would you like me to surmise what I think might have happened?", knowing full well that they had no interest in hearing my surmising. They got pissed and just quit and hauled me up before the grand jury.

Of course, dealing with the FBI is a lot easier when you didn't do anything wrong. Vappie was in the soup from the get-go, so his level of difficulty was a lot harder than mine!
 
To paraphrase the old saying, anyone who lies to the FBI has an idiot for a lawyer.

As I've referenced before in other threads, I had the wonderful pleasure of being "interviewed" by the FBI -- thankfully, not as a target but also not as a mere bystander. Those bastages were most definitely NOT after the truth. They were after skins for the wall and merely tried to lead me to support the bullshot story they invented to make that happen. I was lucky enough to have a terrific lawyer (he had formerly worked for the independent counsel's office during Iran-Contra) and his prep for me was stellar.

In addition to the obvious of not lying to the FBI, he prepped me with information including studies of the human brain and how memory works. This includes the human brain's penchant for unconciously identifying two related, but disconnected, memories and inserting an honestly believed "memory" in between them to make a story more complete. During our prep, he taught me to pause, think, and consider whether something I thought happened was an actual memory or not, or rather whether it was something I was merely surmising based on other background knowledge. It was truly frightening when I realized how natural and how often my brain wanted to do that.

That said, the DoJ and FBI weren't happy with the hundred times I said, "I don't have an actual memory of that but would you like me to surmise what I think might have happened?", knowing full well that they had no interest in hearing my surmising. They got pissed and just quit and hauled me up before the grand jury.

Of course, dealing with the FBI is a lot easier when you didn't do anything wrong. Vappie was in the soup from the get-go, so his level of difficulty was a lot harder than mine!

Yep. I think a lot of what the FBI does is tries to lead you down a path so they can catch you in a lie which forces a witness to cooperate with them and give them the testimony they want by using the threat of jail time for someone who did nothing other than know a person that the FBI is targeting. And if you are the target, if they can't get you for what they think you did, they will get you for lying to them.

Which is why you never speak to the FBI (or any law enforcement agency for that matter) without first talking to a very good and experienced criminal lawyer and having them present. No matter how much they say they just want to ask a couple questions and you aren't their target.
 
Yep. I think a lot of what the FBI does is tries to lead you down a path so they can catch you in a lie which forces a witness to cooperate with them and give them the testimony they want by using the threat of jail time for someone who did nothing other than know a person that the FBI is targeting. And if you are the target, if they can't get you for what they think you did, they will get you for lying to them.

Which is why you never speak to the FBI (or any law enforcement agency for that matter) without first talking to a very good and experienced criminal lawyer and having them present. No matter how much they say they just want to ask a couple questions and you aren't their target.
EXACTLY!

I really do respect law enforcement and the difficult job they have, but they are only human and are NOT your friends in an interrogation. They look for leverage and as you say, once you tell them something that they can prove is false, you're totally screwed. Then your ethics can really get compromised trying to salvage the situation. Much, much better to deal with their snarky: "Do you have a bad memory about everything, sir?" comments than try to fill in the unknown blanks for their interlocking questions simply to appease them.

I always told my sons: be respectful but NEVER answer law enforcement questions (outside of simple traffic stops) without a lawyer present.
 

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