Justin Jefferson info (1 Viewer)

[TribuneUK]

I’ve seen this sentiment a lot, and I get it, but when you say “WR rich,” I think there are 3 or 4 guys who can become Michael Thomas, Deandre Hopkins, etc., and 20 guys who can be Tre’quan Smith. Which is fine. Receivers 3-6 on your depth chart are important. But if the team believes (like I do) that JJ is a perfect fit for us, has the potential to be a star, and values him coming in knowing the offense in a truncated offseason, I don’t have any problem jumping Philly to get him if he’s there in the late teens. And I know we signed Sanders, and that’s great, but it’s a 2-year deal for a 30+ year old receiver. And as a famous coach once said, the only thing better than a crawfish dinner is five crawfish dinners.

To be fair, there's a huge spectrum of ability between MT and TQS and to imply these are the two potential outcomes is rather misleading.

There are a stack of starter quality WR in this draft. There is a small top tier as there always is, but plenty of good players right behind them as well.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

PuddinheadSr, good one. You got me.

But my point stands. I use initials not for the sake of clarity, but for the opposite reason--to disguise my identity.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I’m by no means an insider I just happen to know members of JJ’s family. From what I’m being told he has been told he will be a top 20 pick, several teams have already told him if he’s there he’s their pick. Denver, LV and Philly are the most interested except for one team who has led the pack in interest. The Saints, but they believe Carolina will take him as Joe Brady thinks he is better than CGM. They also said CSP never entertained trading for Burrow as he believes it was the surrounding talent that made him successful. He specifically said to JJ that he was rated as the best prospect in their board from LSU and their top receiver. With all this being said where do you think he’ll be picked and what would you think it would take trade wise to get him?

A look at each team above the Saints
Cincy, Wash, Det,NYG, Mia, LAC-don’t see any way any of these go his direction.

Car-link to Brady and need for true #1 receiver is there. Think they have more need on D side of ball.

Ari- no need loaded at WR

Jax-could be a possibility but they seem to draft defense in the 1st round consistently

Cle-they have enough LSU receivers for their liking. OBJ may be on the way out so there could be an opening here. Just see them going oline.

NYJ-definitely a need but they have a lot of needs. Could be a potential spot for a team looking to add picks and trade down

LV-Who knows with Gruden and Maylock they play with a different draft board than most. Their first draft looks pretty good so far. The need for a WR is there.

SF-Need is there. FA losses, Draft picks minus Samuel not panning out have left a hole at the position.

Tampa-think they are set a WR

Denver-another team with WR needs but think they could also move back to gain picks. If they stay I think this could be a landing spot for him.

Atl-no need here and. I way they trade with the Saints

Dallas-Have a need but also have invested heavily in the position. With the loss of their C
I look for them to trade back and beef up thy position. Jerry has learned that lines win games.
If Den passes on JJ this could be the spot to make a move and jump up.

Mia-still too early for a WR with as many needs as they have.

LV-see above

Philly, Minn, NE all would take him if available I believe.

Personally I think a deal could be done with Dallas. You could package our 1st and Nick Easton to move up seven spots. It would be beneficial to both teams.

#7 is high for him so it makes sense that the Panthers are trying to trade back a little b4 taking him.

 

[St. Widge]

You should watch more game tape then. His strengths lie in adjusting and contested catches. The 3rd and 17 to seal the win vs Texas was minimal separation, ball thrown slightly behind his center and quick acceleration to out run some very fast players in the Texas secondary. That's just 1 one of dozens.

If all people see is Jefferson catching perfect passes, that's probably because they are only looking at tape from last year when Burrow was nearly perfect. Watch him the 2 years before that when the QB play and offense were not good. The guy made plays in even a terrible offensive system with average at best QB play.

 

[los226]

Carolina has DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel, and Robby Anderson. I don’t think they’ll take a WR in the first round with so much need on Defense.

 

[LetsGetWaffles]

Jefferson better than Thomas? Yaaa okay

Jefferson may not even be the first Or second WR picked

And Mike Thomas wasn't the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th WR picked. He was the 6th in his draft and then he transformed from MT > CGM, the best in the bizz. I'm not saying JJ will be better or worse than CGM - I am just saying that draft position has no weight once they step on an NFL field.

 

[cygnus_ltb]

I wouldn't be upset if JJ was there and the Saints grabbed him...but they need linebackers in a bad way. Looks like they may get an extra 3rd rounder as a compensatory pick for Teddy B. Maybe Coach can find WR in the 3rd that can shine in this offense. Claypool, or maybe Shenault falls or some others in a deep WR class.

 

[MLU]

And Mike Thomas wasn't the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th WR picked. He was the 6th in his draft and then he transformed from MT > CGM, the best in the bizz. I'm not saying JJ will be better or worse than CGM - I am just saying that draft position has no weight once they step on an NFL field.

Agreed.

People should stop acting like this is some insult to CGM. Jefferson shares a lot of the same attributes as CGM. Better than average route runner, wins way more 50/50 balls than he loses, can work inside or outside, etc. What elevates CGM from everyone else in the NFL is his work ethic. Guess who caught 10,000 passes last summer away from practices? Jefferson, so sounds like the work ethic is there too. We'll find out eventually if it borders on obsessive like CGM, but I bet it's pretty close. Justin has been known as the guy who was always working out, as soon as he stepped on campus as a low ranked player that no one really recruited.

The biggest differences are Jefferson is faster and CGMs obsessive work ethic.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

Agreed.

People should stop acting like this is some insult to CGM. Jefferson shares a lot of the same attributes as CGM. Better than average route runner, wins way more 50/50 balls than he loses, can work inside or outside, etc. What elevates CGM from everyone else in the NFL is his work ethic. Guess who caught 10,000 passes last summer away from practices? Jefferson, so sounds like the work ethic is there too. We'll find out eventually if it borders on obsessive like CGM, but I bet it's pretty close. Justin has been known as the guy who was always working out, as soon as he stepped on campus as a low ranked player that no one really recruited.

The biggest differences are Jefferson is faster and CGMs obsessive work ethic.

Jefferson doesn’t have the physicality trait that Thomas possesses. Jefferson also doesn’t have the ability to pull down balls with a defender draped on his body and arms. Jefferson has more of a finesse style. CGM is a rare breed that you don’t see often. It’s not a knock on Jefferson.

 

[MLU]

Jefferson doesn’t have the physicality trait that Thomas possesses. Jefferson also doesn’t have the ability to pull down balls with a defender draped on his body and arms. Jefferson has more of a finesse style. CGM is a rare breed that you don’t see often. It’s not a knock on Jefferson.

1) FACT: No two players are EXACTLY alike.

2) FACT: Jefferson was one of the best contested ball catchers in college football last year, playing primarily in the slot.

I think Jefferson hasn't shown the SAME kind of physical play as CGM because he hasn't needed to show the same kind of physical play. We all understand that CGM is not going to win a lot of sprints. He has other ways of getting separation and a lot of that involves him fighting for the ball when catching it. Jefferson is significantly faster than CGM, so of course he hasn't shown to be as physical. When he was drafted, CGM wasn't as physical as he is now either.

Regardless of what you and I think, if Joe Brady (a guy who has worked closely with both of them) feels the comparison is there then why would you not listen to him?

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

He had 2 years of tape. It’s clear he isnt a violent physical receiver like Thomas who can make tough catches with Dbs all over him. We’re talking about borderline pass interference type of catches Thomas does regularly and displayed in college. That’s a huge trait that makes Thomas hard to cover, tackle, and contain. It’s not a good comparison when that trait is a big part in his game. You can look at his teammate at LSU who displays that violent physical trait in Chase. It’s not something you learn at this stage, it’s something you either have or you don’t. Jefferson isn’t that type of receiver even if he shares the same space as guys like Thomas.

I never said Jefferson isn’t good but you seem to think that anything that Thomas has that he doesn’t is a negative thing ifJefferson doesn’t do well in that regard for some reason. I actually think he’s going to be 10+ year receiver. But when you talk about Michael Thomas, you’re talking about a truly unguardable receiver in the NFL. That’s rare as it is already.