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Saint_Ward said:
I don't know how far they'll take this yet, but I really don't want for Kreese to have been bullied and have some sob story. I don't want to like him. I don't want to like him.
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I had a similar thought about Kreese's backstory, but then I began to believe that they are showing the flipside of what happens to victims of bullying, they become psycho school shooters.
 
Cage1 said:
One of the suck things about being married is she has a far lower tolerance for binging. I’d be done with this by now but she watches 1 or 2 and is ready to stop and read a book or whatever. Frustrating.
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And now someone on the internet said it would be helpful to have watched KK3 before Cobra Kai so she wants to take a break to watch the worst of the KK movies instead of more Cobra Kai.
 
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Torgo said:
I can agree with this. Despite getting some backstory on Kreese, my sympathy for him is pretty low. That dude has had decades to realize he was a piece of work but still chooses to be one. It's a contrast to Eli/Hawk's story. He was born with a deformity. It wasn't anything he could control. He got bullied for it. He was well on the way to becoming another Kreese, but he chose to be better.
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I agree with all this, but...

So far, outside of his one moment of not showing Mercy to the Captain who didn't deserve it (maybe?), he's still kind of the good guy in 'Nam. I knew Vietnam is what likely ruined him, but they still haven't shown him be bad yet. He's kinda likeable, even almost heroic in the past. fork that, he's a psycho. I mean, look at how much he's manipulating the kids, and he loves doing it. He's a monster. I don't see that in his past, and it's just disjointing.

Makes me wonder, the fellow POW he called.. who is he now? Like the governor? Some sort of ace up his sleeve for the tournament.

Overall, decent season. I do think overall story arc, it moved a bit slow. I really loved the Japan episode, but really wish he taught the kids the lesson about 'taking away their ability to wage war'. Instead, the kid of kid violence just got stupider. Seriously, they threw the little kid through the window of Daniel's house! Who does that? My first reaction would be to tell one of the kids to call the cops. That little twit girl should be in jail. I mean, seriously.

Speaking of which, they make Sam waaaay too doe eyed for every boy she's within 5 feet of. So stupid, but then again, kids are dumb.

I thought the Ali episode was very well done, outside of my house fight complaints. I think it was a perfect message about moving forward, not being stuck in the past. Also reminds me that every time Daniel and Johnny have drinks and laugh with the ladies, something awful happens. At least this time they didn't fight each other, they fought together. Finally moving forward.

I really wanted Daniel to kick Kreese through the glass at the end there. He was going to shank him with Glass. Screw that. I did enjoy the fact that Daniel finally got to own him, since Mr. Miyagi is no longer with us. Daniel, and Johnny for that matter, never got that chance.

Johnny's son is an idiot. I kind of never liked his character. Just a forced 'Twilight' Wolf boy kinda thing.

I really can't believe all of that was just a set up for season 4 with training and the tournament.
 
Saint_Ward said:
I agree with all this, but...

So far, outside of his one moment of not showing Mercy to the Captain who didn't deserve it (maybe?), he's still kind of the good guy in 'Nam. I knew Vietnam is what likely ruined him, but they still haven't shown him be bad yet. He's kinda likeable, even almost heroic in the past. fork that, he's a psycho. I mean, look at how much he's manipulating the kids, and he loves doing it. He's a monster. I don't see that in his past, and it's just disjointing.

Makes me wonder, the fellow POW he called.. who is he now? Like the governor? Some sort of ace up his sleeve for the tournament.

Overall, decent season. I do think overall story arc, it moved a bit slow. I really loved the Japan episode, but really wish he taught the kids the lesson about 'taking away their ability to wage war'. Instead, the kid of kid violence just got stupider. Seriously, they threw the little kid through the window of Daniel's house! Who does that? My first reaction would be to tell one of the kids to call the cops. That little twit girl should be in jail. I mean, seriously.

Speaking of which, they make Sam waaaay too doe eyed for every boy she's within 5 feet of. So stupid, but then again, kids are dumb.

I thought the Ali episode was very well done, outside of my house fight complaints. I think it was a perfect message about moving forward, not being stuck in the past. Also reminds me that every time Daniel and Johnny have drinks and laugh with the ladies, something awful happens. At least this time they didn't fight each other, they fought together. Finally moving forward.

I really wanted Daniel to kick Kreese through the glass at the end there. He was going to shank him with Glass. Screw that. I did enjoy the fact that Daniel finally got to own him, since Mr. Miyagi is no longer with us. Daniel, and Johnny for that matter, never got that chance.

Johnny's son is an idiot. I kind of never liked his character. Just a forced 'Twilight' Wolf boy kinda thing.

I really can't believe all of that was just a set up for season 4 with training and the tournament.
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I’m pretty sure the guy he called was Terry from KK3. He said before that Kreese saved his life in Nam. At one point in the flashback I think Kreese calls him “ponytail”.
 
Saint by the Bay said:
I’m pretty sure the guy he called was Terry from KK3. He said before that Kreese saved his life in Nam. At one point in the flashback I think Kreese calls him “ponytail”.
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Yup, totally has to be him. I never realized all this on the bio...

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Terry Silver

✓ Terrance "Terry" Silver is the secondary antagonist of The Karate Kid franchise. He is John Kreese's (former) closest friend, the CEO of DynaTox Industries, the sponsor of the All Valley Karate Tournament, and the arch-nemesis of Daniel LaRusso. Like Kreese, he is a traumatized Vietnam...
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"It was in Vietnam that Silver would meet one of the primary influences on his later life, Capt. John Kreese. Kreese, then a First Lieutenant, was the Commanding Officer of the infantry company which Silver was assigned to, and had already distinguished himself with heroic service in combat during the previous years of the war. Kreese was a specialist in long-range surveillance patrols and an expert in jungle warfare, and was invaluable to the young Silver as a mentor and if big brother figure. Silver credited Kreese with saving his life several times during harrowing night-time patrols in Vietnam's Central Highlands region, where the two came under enemy fire on countless occasions. Silver himself was awarded three Purple Heart medals over the course of his combat service from 1969 to 1972, and Kreese earned a Silver Star and was promoted to the rank of Captain.

In 1970, Kreese became the U.S. Army's Karate champion, at which point Silver requested that Kreese train him. Though he had no prior experience in Karate, Silver's exceptional athleticism and his physical stamina made him a natural for martial arts, and Silver began undertaking extensive Karate lessons from Kreese in between combat missions. Kreese, who had studied under Kim Sun-Yung of South Korea, instilled in Silver the creed of "Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy". The two continued their rigorous workouts and sparring matches throughout the remainder of the war, along with others in their infantry company so that more soldiers could learn the valuable hand-to-hand combat skills. It was this small but elite group of soldiers who became the very first "Cobra Kai" class, and all of them received a distinctive tattoo of a fist clutching a cobra, which was to become the symbol of their brotherhood"
 
Saint by the Bay said:
I’m pretty sure the guy he called was Terry from KK3. He said before that Kreese saved his life in Nam. At one point in the flashback I think Kreese calls him “ponytail”.
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I think the one he called Poneytail was the one who was killed. I think Silver was the one they called Twig
 
Torgo said:
What's not promising is Netflix's penchant for pulling the plug on series too soon. I'd be pretty ticked off if this show got cancelled before they are able to tell their full story.
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Don't jinx us...
 
Torgo said:
What's not promising is Netflix's penchant for pulling the plug on series too soon. I'd be pretty ticked off if this show got cancelled before they are able to tell their full story.
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It’s been pretty wildly successful for Netflix, so cancellation ain’t happening.
 
It is campy, full of nostalgia and I love it. I think i was 19-20 when it first came out, so for me it invokes a lot of memories. I also think, while the series is far from perfect, it has some clever twists to it (and some that aren't so clever). But overall, I'm a fan....
 
Man, so the ages of these actors is going to be a little wonky if they bring back Terry Silver. The actor who played Terry Silver is younger than Ralph Macchio. He's a good 16 years younger than Kreese. The Vietnam stuff was a little strange back then, but now the new stuff is even stranger as they appeared to be roughly the same age in the flashbacks. I don't know how they're going to explain why Kreese looks like the grim reaper and Silver looks younger than Johnny.
 

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