Lord of the Rings Series -- Amazon (1 Viewer)

[TheRealJRad]

This isn't an adaptation, it's fanfic. Bad fanfic since any actual fan would consider the whole "mithril or we die" thread to be unbelievably stupid.
The idea that Elvish souls could dim is so far out of anything remotely like canon I'm shocked they actually approved it.

What’s confusing me is weren’t the options: a) stay and die b) get mithril stay and live c) go home? And wasn’t there some big to do about Galadriel “going home” in like episode 1? Or was that not the same place? Because in this scenario it seems like “go home” is a pretty clear winner if those are the same place.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

This isn't an adaptation, it's fanfic. Bad fanfic since any actual fan would consider the whole "mithril or we die" thread to be unbelievably stupid.
The idea that Elvish souls could dim is so far out of anything remotely like canon I'm shocked they actually approved it.

You’re confusing the beginning of the story with the end of the story
Plenty of time for contradictions, confusions and outright lies

 

[Cage1]

Well, I never read the Silmarillion or any of Tolkien’s random notes or letters, so I don’t really care if Galadriel is 100 or 3000 years old or if Gandalf shouldn’t come around for another 1000 years or if Elves get boners or whatever. So I guess I’m saying I like it just fine.

 

[sfidc3]

There's more of us than you might think.

I thought I deserved an A for trying (I got through about 200 pages) but…naw….well done sir!!!!

 

[Taurus]

You’re confusing the beginning of the story with the end of the story
Plenty of time for contradictions, confusions and outright lies

You mean more of them.

 

[Taurus]

What’s confusing me is weren’t the options: a) stay and die b) get mithril stay and live c) go home? And wasn’t there some big to do about Galadriel “going home” in like episode 1? Or was that not the same place? Because in this scenario it seems like “go home” is a pretty clear winner if those are the same place.

The thing is, they're bathed in Silmaril light every night. (Assuming we buy the ridiculous premise, which is patently anti-canon) Earendil was put up in the sky as a star by the Valar with a Silmaril.
This plot makes as much sense as having Abraham Lincoln show up as a Cthulhu cultist.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

The thing is, they're bathed in Silmaril light every night. (Assuming we buy the ridiculous premise, which is patently anti-canon) Earendil was put up in the sky as a star by the Valar with a Silmaril.
This plot makes as much sense as having Abraham Lincoln show up as a Cthulhu cultist.

Is that before or after he became a vampire hunter?

 

[Saint_Ward]

The thing is, they're bathed in Silmaril light every night. (Assuming we buy the ridiculous premise, which is patently anti-canon) Earendil was put up in the sky as a star by the Valar with a Silmaril.
This plot makes as much sense as having Abraham Lincoln show up as a Cthulhu cultist.

Welll.... the star of Earendil was a Silmarilian and put up by the Valar. So, that part is accurate.

Also, the fading of the Eldar was a very real thing. They would diminish amd fade is away from Valinor for too long. They cheated that a bit by making the 3 rings. So, that being a big concern of Gil-Galad is reasonable. Now... mithril? Eh..... interesting.

Movie Confusion: The Exodus of the Elves and Arwen’s Choice

My husband recently asked me, “Why do the elves need to leave Middle-earth?” as we sat and watched Return of the King for the ten-thousandth time. While the answer is in the texts, I think that the…

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[GeauxWhoDats]

I don't understand all the hate this show is receiving (in this thread). It is fantastic in cinema, casting and script. Scroll through all of your streaming platforms and find me 3 current season shows better than this one.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I don't understand all the hate this show is receiving (in this thread). It is fantastic in cinema, casting and script. Scroll through all of your streaming platforms and find me 3 current season shows better than this one.

I've seen people, not on here, claim that the dialogue is garbage, the Harfoots are evil for leaving people behind and that they've totally forked up the canon. I think they are a little bit crazy.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't understand all the hate this show is receiving (in this thread). It is fantastic in cinema, casting and script. Scroll through all of your streaming platforms and find me 3 current season shows better than this one.

And if we want to guarantee Amazon doesn’t ever take another big fantasy swing again, we should keep bleating about ‘fanfic’

 

[DaveXA]

And if we want to guarantee Amazon doesn’t ever take another big fantasy swing again, we should keep bleating about ‘fanfic’

There's nothing wrong with fanfic. But, we should we should acknowledge that's mostly what this is. I just sort of pretend this isn't Tolkien I'm watching and I'm fine watching it.

 

[Taurus]

And if we want to guarantee Amazon doesn’t ever take another big fantasy swing again, we should keep bleating about ‘fanfic’

FanficfanficfanmotherforkingFIC!

I hope that does it.

 

[Taurus]

Welll.... the star of Earendil was a Silmarilian and put up by the Valar. So, that part is accurate.

Also, the fading of the Eldar was a very real thing. They would diminish amd fade is away from Valinor for too long. They cheated that a bit by making the 3 rings. So, that being a big concern of Gil-Galad is reasonable. Now... mithril? Eh..... interesting.

Movie Confusion: The Exodus of the Elves and Arwen’s Choice

My husband recently asked me, “Why do the elves need to leave Middle-earth?” as we sat and watched Return of the King for the ten-thousandth time. While the answer is in the texts, I think that the…

sarahcradit.wordpress.com

The Fading takes an unimaginably long time. Elves don't die, they become bodiless souls if they insist on lingering.
Even if we buy the idea it's "the light of Valinor" fading over time, it wouldn't effect Gil-Galad or the vast majority of elves in middle-earth, they never set foot in the Undying Lands.
Gil-Galad himself was born in Beleriand, not Valinor.
It's just a ridiculous, non-canon contrivance.

You can only directly contradict canon so many times before you're no longer doing an adaptation, you're doing fanfic or 'based on', 'inspired by' work.

Which isn't necessarily bad. Blade Runner bears little resemblance to the Philip K Dick story, yet it's a classic of the genre.

My point isn't to say that RoP shouldn't be enjoyed by those who like it. Go ahead, knock yourself out.

My goal is to show that you can have serious reservations and criticisms of the show without being a neckbearded, racist incel howling into the void from his mom's basement.

 

[Zztop]

I guess that was Mount Doom