Lord of the Rings Series -- Amazon (2 Viewers)

[Taurus]

i'll never understand how LOTR elitists can hate on people being overpowered after seeing Legolas slide (suf) down a wall on a shield while shooting 3000 orcs (edit - 41). To me, that was the stupidest scene in all of LOTR. If you still can hold that up as a masterpiece, i think you need to leave a lot of room for over-powered people. i'm not saying you're that elitist, but people were willing to overlook that trash, but now we can't seem to overlook anything.

To my view, Galadriel isn't OP enough. She's explicitly described as being on par with Feanor. The same Feanor who created the Silmarils and the Palantiri. The reason she seems OP is that we don't get to see the 2500-12500 years she spends learning from the Valar and perfecting her skills. She's a really terrible choice for a protagonist in a movie because of that.
Either she's a God Tier Mary-Sue or you have a long montage of her being taught magic and swordcraft and everything else by the gods themselves, then another long montage of struggle and suffering before the War of Wrath and the beginning of our story.
A much better protagonist would've been Elrond. (Who is, by the way, most definitely an Elf Lord) We could start around the time that Elros passes away and follow the rise and fall of Numenor, with somewhat less timeline compression and human characters the audience can more easily grasp...along with the opportunity to tell a very adult version of the tale with palace intrigue, grand triumphs, corruption, human sacrifice and literally apocalyptic hubris.

Feh, it's a wasted opportunity that'll take years to be attempted again.

Still superior to Wheel of Time, though.

 

[Taurus]

This is a decent argument about all that.

Fear of a Black Hobbit

The demand to keep politics out of art is too often a demand for art to conform to conservative politics.

www.theatlantic.com

I gave a like for the quoted part, but I'm all out of free Atlantic articles for the month, so I'm unable to read the whole thing.

 

[Taurus]

i'll never understand how LOTR elitists can hate on people being overpowered after seeing Legolas slide (suf) down a wall on a shield while shooting 3000 orcs (edit - 41). To me, that was the stupidest scene in all of LOTR. If you still can hold that up as a masterpiece, i think you need to leave a lot of room for over-powered people. i'm not saying you're that elitist, but people were willing to overlook that trash, but now we can't seem to overlook anything.

D&D 101. The Rule of Cool trumps all.

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

D&D 101. The Rule of Cool trumps all.

ha, my problem is that i did not think it was cool. I still seethe about that scene. i think if i was 5 years younger (or maybe just more fun), I'd remember it a lot differently though.

 

[boutte]

This is a decent argument about all that.

Fear of a Black Hobbit

The demand to keep politics out of art is too often a demand for art to conform to conservative politics.

www.theatlantic.com

Why do you feel the need to say something demeaning about people who have a different than you? You've done the same thing to me on a couple occasions and it's just uncalled for. He finds the fact that only one elf that we've seen is black implausible. You accuse him some Jim Crow BS. In other words twisting his words to mean something different from what he actually said.
Then you go on and make a rational argument to support your opinion, but you come off as condescending. I've liked many of posts because they're usually intelligent and well stated, and in most cases pretty close my own view on whatever the subject is, but your responses to opposing view points are often insulting and/or just plain hostile.

 

[DaveXA]

Why do you feel the need to say something demeaning about people who have a different than you? You've done the same thing to me on a couple occasions and it's just uncalled for. He finds the fact that only one elf that we've seen is black implausible. You accuse him some Jim Crow BS. In other words twisting his words to mean something different from what he actually said.
Then you go on and make a rational argument to support your opinion, but you come off as condescending. I've liked many of posts because they're usually intelligent and well stated, and in most cases pretty close my own view on whatever the subject is, but your responses to opposing view points are often insulting and/or just plain hostile.

Did you quote the wrong post? Because your response to it doesn't make any sense.

I think you're responding to the article, which the poster did not write.

 

[boutte]

Did you quote the wrong post? Because your response to it doesn't make any sense.

I think you're responding to the article, which the poster did not write.

No I'm responding to this.

"Demanding Jim Crow casting requirements for a show on which the concept of race applies to elves and hobbits indicates a rather profound “obsession with identity issues that only go skin deep."

 

[DaveXA]

No I'm responding to this.

"Demanding Jim Crow casting requirements for a show on which the concept of race applies to elves and hobbits indicates a rather profound “obsession with identity issues that only go skin deep."

Lmao, that's a quote from the article.

 

[Zztop]

I gave a like for the quoted part, but I'm all out of free Atlantic articles for the month, so I'm unable to read the whole thing.

you can use something like https://12ft.io to bypass paywall (I try not to use it too often)

 

[Tapxe]

Did you quote the wrong post? Because your response to it doesn't make any sense.

I think you're responding to the article, which the poster did not write.

I'm guessing this is a response to me. I seem to recall some misunderstanding about a post I made. I attempted to reconcile and thought we were ok, but he started attacking my other posts.

So I the user is now on my ignore.

 

[DaveXA]

I'm guessing this is a response to me. I seem to recall some misunderstanding about a post I made. I attempted to reconcile and thought we were ok, but he started attacking my other posts.

So I the user is now on my ignore.

Yeah, it's odd because your post wasn't directed at him. So I couldn't understand what he was getting at.

 

[Consigliere]

i'll never understand how LOTR elitists can hate on people being overpowered after seeing Legolas slide (suf) down a wall on a shield while shooting 3000 orcs (edit - 41). To me, that was the stupidest scene in all of LOTR. If you still can hold that up as a masterpiece, i think you need to leave a lot of room for over-powered people. i'm not saying you're that elitist, but people were willing to overlook that trash, but now we can't seem to overlook anything.

Real LOTR elitists focus on the books, and we know the score: 42-41. So I agree with you on the pro-elf fake news.

 

[Consigliere]

D&D 101. The Rule of Cool trumps all.

D&D 101 for me was Charisma don't count but 18 Strength gets you through life just fine.

 

[MLU]

Finally saw it. Enjoyed it immensely. Honestly, after Wheel of Time my biggest concern was the production value. It's been so many years since I read The Silmarillion and I never touched the Christopher Tolkien stuff. I was entertained. That is all.

 

[Semper]

As a huge fan of this genre I still can’t watch it. I turned off the Saints game on Sunday and switched to this show one more time. Fell asleep. It just doesn’t hold my attention. I find it very confusing.