Marquez Callaway (1 Viewer)

[BarBar]

Great write up and you made alot of good points. I would buy off on the Calloway narrative, if you can sell me on him being better than Deontay "mini Tyrek Hill" Harty. If it was me I would start MT13, Olave, and Harty with AK41 (speed and POWER). You can't cover that, somebody is open. With the OL being as good as it is and Jameis mobility. Its a first down or completion. BTW Calloway 46rec or 2.7 rec a game is pitful, (was our #1 WR (started all 17 games) last year and I had to scroll 3 pages on NFL WR stats to find him. Comparing LMo and Calloway is not fair. Remember Calloway went 13 games last year without getting at least 50 yards receiving not to mention getting blanked our last game of the year when we needed him the most. Just a thought.

To be fair to Calloway, defenses had an easy job last year against us. He was our best receiver and he is only average at best. Put your best cover guy or two on him and he will not be super effective.

I think next season he should be in a more favorable position. The thing I like about him the most is how he fights for the ball on tough catches. I am not saying he is MT, but he has a little bit of that "it's MY ball" mentality.

If he looks overwhelmed again next year then perhaps he won't be the player we all want him to be. I think the best is yet to come.

I also think Harty is a gamer, though. He needs as many snaps as he can get.

 

[football]

For almost 10 years we have been looking for that "Lance Moore" type of receivers and have yet to find one. Willie Snead was ok but not a Lance Moore. Kenny Still was good his first year and disappear after that. Lance Moore was just elusive. He knows how to get open. I pretty sure having chemistry with Brees was a big factor. What we do need is a Doug Baldwin, Julian Edelman, or a Steve Smith type of receivers. A rugged, tough receivers that isn't afraid to make the yards to move the chain. Harris is shifty and fast but he is just too small and prone to injuries.

Callaway is good but just serviceable. He has improve his route running and looks more confident in his abilities. But I see him more like a possession receiver who gets a few catches here and there. I have to compare him to a Brandon Coleman or Tre'quan Smith type of receivers.

 

[kennydfresh]

To be fair to Calloway, defenses had an easy job last year against us. He was our best receiver and he is only average at best. Put your best cover guy or two on him and he will not be super effective.

I think next season he should be in a more favorable position. The thing I like about him the most is how he fights for the ball on tough catches. I am not saying he is MT, but he has a little bit of that "it's MY ball" mentality.

If he looks overwhelmed again next year then perhaps he won't be the player we all want him to be. I think the best is yet to come.

I also think Harty is a gamer, though. He needs as many snaps as he can get.

Great take. I agree. I'll reserve judgement until the season starts, lets see if he worked hard and earns it on the field.

 

[liveoakh]

If you put Moore outside and asked him to do what Callaway was asked to do last year (to be a #1 WR), he would have struggled much more.

Moore was given the opportunity to play WR#2 and was quickly overwhelmed by it. He later emerged as a very good slot #3 WR.

 

[sammymvpknight]

Great write up and you made alot of good points. I would buy off on the Calloway narrative, if you can sell me on him being better than Deontay "mini Tyrek Hill" Harty. If it was me I would start MT13, Olave, and Harty with AK41 (speed and POWER). You can't cover that, somebody is open. With the OL being as good as it is and Jameis mobility. Its a first down or completion. BTW Calloway 46rec or 2.7 rec a game is pitful, (was our #1 WR (started all 17 games) last year and I had to scroll 3 pages on NFL WR stats to find him. Comparing LMo and Calloway is not fair. Remember Calloway went 13 games last year without getting at least 50 yards receiving not to mention getting blanked our last game of the year when we needed him the most. Just a thought.

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When comparing a second year Callaway to a second year Moore…Callaway was definitely better. Callaway has flashed significantly the last two years, much more than Moore in his first two years. He made a lot of plays last year…and was easily our best WR in my opinion, as much as I like Harris, he can’t stay healthy at WR.

The problem Callaway had was that he isn’t a #1 WR, and was all the Saints had at WR. Do you know how much harder it is to separate against #1 NFL CBs versus slot CBs? Not to mention that the Saints passing offense was notoriously low volume, especially with Winston who only completely 15 passes a game. Then you have arguably the worst QB room in the NFL after Winston goes down. People are sore that Callaway didn’t live up fantasy God billing as a 2nd year UDFA…which is actually pathetic.

He’s a really good player, and as a #3 WR he’ll be really good. Not many guys are #1 WRs in this league, but that’s fine. He’s also a standout special teamer. I’m happy he’s a Saint and I still think that his better days are ahead now that he won’t get as much attention.

 

[liveoakh]

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When comparing a second year Callaway to a second year Moore…Callaway was definitely better. Callaway has flashed significantly the last two years, much more than Moore in his first two years. He made a lot of plays last year…and was easily our best WR in my opinion, as much as I like Harris, he can’t stay healthy at WR.

The problem Callaway had was that he isn’t a #1 WR, and was all the Saints had at WR. Do you know how much harder it is to separate against #1 NFL CBs versus slot CBs? Not to mention that the Saints passing offense was notoriously low volume, especially with Winston who only completely 15 passes a game. Then you have arguably the worst QB room in the NFL after Winston goes down. People are sore that Callaway didn’t live up fantasy God billing as a 2nd year UDFA…which is actually pathetic.

He’s a really good player, and as a #3 WR he’ll be really good. Not many guys are #1 WRs in this league, but that’s fine. He’s also a standout special teamer. I’m happy he’s a Saint and I still think that his better days are ahead now that he won’t get as much attention.

Great post.

 

[ShortFuzed9]

Olave and Harty will open it up for him and the TE to do alot of damage given the attention Thomas and whom ever lines up on that side will get, this is why I would've liked to see them grab a TE to stretch the field.

 

[greatshow25]

Hopkin runs a 4.41 (really fast) compared to Calloway who runs a 4.57 for comparison that is slower Treylon Burks and Michael Thomas. So last year when he couldn't separate, now you know why.

D Hop ran a 4.57 at the combine and then ran a 4.46 and a 4.41 at the Clemson pro day. Most guys run faster times at there pro day if you look at his times Hop is a 4.5 guy all day. Callaway ran a 4.55 so speed wise they are about the same. I use Hopkins, Adams(4.56) in the arguments all the time of what Thomas(4.57) can be with a big armed QB. I agree that Callaway will be a better 2/3 WR. He should be able to dominate now with Thomas as and Olave. I think they will also sprinkle Harty in the mix like they used Mech and Henderson back in the day.

 

[bobad]

Dan, you read my mind.

I have great expectations for Callaway. Whenever I thought about Mike and our future choice at WR, I thought of Calloway more than them. Life for him last year was as bad as it gets for a WR. All the defense had to do was stop him and our passing game was shut down.

He did drop 3-4 passes last year eyeing the RAC, because he has confidence in his running ability. It's hard to fault a young WR for that. I'm guessing he will get that behind him, gain 10 pounds, get physically stronger and smarter, and should make us a great No3 going forward.

 

[sammymvpknight]

FYI…I love Callaway but he isn’t Moore. Moore was a slot WR…a small, quick guy that couldn’t make plays down the field. Callaway is the opposite, throughout college he made plays down the field. He averaged over 15 yards per reception last year. Harris, again…he’s a down the field receiver who can do jet sweeps and things like that.

I think that Olave and Thomas profile better to watch Moore did as a receiver. They can run the quick, get open routes in the short and intermediate range. Olave also has the added benefit of also being able to get deep.

It’s really hard to give Callaway a Saints comp, but as far as a role I think he’d thrive, it’d be the Meachem role. He’s not going to blow by people, but he has shown the ability to separate using his length, technique, and hops…and he has much better hands than Meachem. He also is already a better short/intermediate ranged WR than Meachem. It won’t be a sexy, high volume fantasy role…but it will be highly valuable.

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Callaway has already proven that he can provide us that:

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I do think that Landry would have a role on the Saints but I honestly think it wouldn’t have much of an impact on Callaways role. They are different players.

 

[liveoakh]

Great write up and you made alot of good points. I would buy off on the Calloway narrative, if you can sell me on him being better than Deontay "mini Tyrek Hill" Harty. If it was me I would start MT13, Olave, and Harty with AK41 (speed and POWER). You can't cover that, somebody is open. With the OL being as good as it is and Jameis mobility. Its a first down or completion. BTW Calloway 46rec or 2.7 rec a game is pitful, (was our #1 WR (started all 17 games) last year and I had to scroll 3 pages on NFL WR stats to find him. Comparing LMo and Calloway is not fair. Remember Calloway went 13 games last year without getting at least 50 yards receiving not to mention getting blanked our last game of the year when we needed him the most. Just a thought.

Just to put everything in to perspective: Why bag on Calloway? Undrafted 2nd yr player. All Calloway did was step up, and post 700 yds and score 6 TDs, lead all WRs that season, and separate himself from the pack. Playing out of position (#1WR), with 4 different QBs and an O line that the wheels kept falling off. If Hardy was so much better than Calloway, why didn't he show it? Because he is not an every down WR, but Calloway is. AS TCUDan explained Hardy is a weapon, and not an every down WR.


Just for context in 2021:

Jarvis Landry : 570yds 2 TDs on 87 Targets.

Marquez Calloway: 700yds 6 TDs on 83 Targets.

But carry on, don't let facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion.

 

[meily]

I think a healthy Thomas opens things up for Olave and Calloway. I'm not sure about him being effective in the slot because you need a suddeness to be a slot player and Calloway seems like a one trick pony in regard to his routes as he is affective going deep and on slants. (Well a two trick pony).

I think Harty goes back to his PR/KR duties and gets 4th reciever snaps but we can't over work him on offense as his primary function is as a special team returner.

 

[kennydfresh]

Just to put everything in to perspective: Why bag on Calloway? Undrafted 2nd yr player. All Calloway did was step up, and post 700 yds and score 6 TDs, lead all WRs that season, and separate himself from the pack. Playing out of position (#1WR), with 4 different QBs and an O line that the wheels kept falling off. If Hardy was so much better than Calloway, why didn't he show it? Because he is not an every down WR, but Calloway is. AS TCUDan explained Hardy is a weapon, and not an every down WR.


Just for context in 2021:

Jarvis Landry : 570yds 2 TDs on 87 Targets.

Marquez Calloway: 700yds 6 TDs on 83 Targets.

But carry on, don't let facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion.

FACT...... is Callaway didn't have 700yds receiving nice try. "But carry on, don't let facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion."

 

[sammymvpknight]

FACT...... is Callaway didn't have 700yds receiving nice try. "But carry on, don't let facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion."

Lol he had 698 yard. I think rounding 2 yards is reasonable

 

[kennydfresh]

D Hop ran a 4.57 at the combine and then ran a 4.46 and a 4.41 at the Clemson pro day. Most guys run faster times at there pro day if you look at his times Hop is a 4.5 guy all day. Callaway ran a 4.55 so speed wise they are about the same. I use Hopkins, Adams(4.56) in the arguments all the time of what Thomas(4.57) can be with a big armed QB. I agree that Callaway will be a better 2/3 WR. He should be able to dominate now with Thomas as and Olave. I think they will also sprinkle Harty in the mix like they used Mech and Henderson back in the day.

That sprinkle Harty crap needs to go (not aimed at you but the team), that guy is fire in a bottle, I think with the same skills set as Tyrek Hill if you ask me. It reminds me of the Pierre Thomas situation when he clearly had that "it" factor and CSP took his sweet time to trust and give him the playing time he deserved.