Mickey Loomis’ End Of Year Press Conference (1 Viewer)

[Chicago Saints Fan]

Mikey is not doing anything. Khai Harley is the cap master and he's doing all the work. Lazy Mickey ain't doing anything except protecting his drinking buddy, Allen.

 

[Rouxble]

Loomis was on NFL Radio. Didn’t catch it all, but caught the below:

They had a plan to start winding down the Saints cap commitments in the COVID year but couldn’t with the cap decrease.

He expects some belt tightening this year, and said younger players will likely need to step up to fill the gap.

When asked about what things needed to be fixed (they were referencing his press conference), he said there’s a long list but gave two examples.

1. Between 2006 and 2019 they had around 95% participation in their offseason programs. After COVID it has been slipping, so they want to get the team back together to build more team chemistry.

2. He talked about players using technology to watch film, said it used to be that the position groups would gather after practice to watch film together but that hasn’t been happening. They plan to get back to more position group film study rather than players studying on their own.

The interview was longer and should get posted on Sirius later, if I listen I’ll post anything else of interest.

 

[DSnfla]

I don't know if you ever worked in the food industry and was able to see the complaints.. but the cake eaters most certainly do those things.

Ohhh yeah I have. And the cake eaters know about as much about real baking as most posters on msg boards do about running an NFL offense

 

[DSnfla]

Our bakery went out and spent a lot of money, bought all the best ingredients, bragged on doing so and said being the best in our area is the standard. Then turned out a cake that is a mess and a competing bakery down the street made one better for half the price.

Our baker used to have a couple stud sous chefs working for him but he wanted to prove to everyone he knew best and went out and got a McDonald's burger flipper and made him the head chef. Now the cakes aren't up to anyone's standards and the employees are disgruntled with the best of them probably being sent off. The baker then gaslights everyone else comparing his McDonald's burger flipper to Michelin Star Chefs.

You totally missed the point of my post

 

[DSnfla]

Loomis was on NFL Radio. Didn’t catch it all, but caught the below:

They had a plan to start winding down the Saints cap commitments in the COVID year but couldn’t with the cap decrease.

He expects some belt tightening this year, and said younger players will likely need to step up to fill the gap.

When asked about what things needed to be fixed (they were referencing his press conference), he said there’s a long list but gave two examples.

1. Between 2006 and 2019 they had around 95% participation in their offseason programs. After COVID it has been slipping, so they want to get the team back together to build more team chemistry.

2. He talked about players using technology to watch film, said it used to be that the position groups would gather after practice to watch film together but that hasn’t been happening. They plan to get back to more position group film study rather than players studying on their own.

The interview was longer and should get posted on Sirius later, if I listen I’ll post anything else of interest.

Makes sense, players just like the rest of society is getting more lazy and entitled

 

[DSnfla]

I suppose I am one of those who does not believe I need to be qualified to be an NFL head coach or general manager--or president of the United States (a general comment not aimed at any one president)--to be critical of the job being done.

The Saints are a sports-entertainment business with a current valuation of perhaps four billion dollars. I expect professionalism and a competence level at a high level in such a business. Before yesterday, Loomis in public did not appear often--and certainly did not say much of substance. In his years as head coach, Payton was the public face of the franchise. Yesterday, at least for a time, Loomis became that public face. The gum-chewing was inexplicably unprofessional. If Loomis were feeling ill, he should have postponed the press conference for a few days. But the gum aside, I have two criticisms of his performance--and that is what it was--yesterday.

First, the tone. Some have suggested that he seemed arrogant. What I saw yesterday was a combative tone trying to mask lack of confidence. Before yesterday, Loomis has always come across as a sovereign who simply did whatever he wanted without fear of criticism inside or outside the organization. Yesterday, I got the feeling that Loomis knows that the fan base, if not some inside the organization, finds the team's performance unacceptably poor and believes that he as general manager bears the responsibility.

Second, the substance. Some of his substantive arguments were insulting. Loomis could have said that he believes Dennis Allen is a good coach, that he was encouraged by how hard the team played in the final quarter of the season, that some NFL organizations are not sufficiently patient with their coaching hires, and that he believes it is in the best interests of the franchise that Allen return as head coach. Instead, in prepared remarks, he compared Allen's last two years to the first coaching years of Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, and Tom Landry.

For two reasons, his comparisons were patently absurd.

One, Noll and Walsh took over teams that had hit bottom and that needed to be rebuilt. And Landry was coaching an expansion team. The stated rationale for Allen being named head coach was that the Saints were a competitive team and that the continuity provided by Allen would keep the Saints competitive.

Two, for every example one can give of an NFL head coach whose record in his first two years was poor and who became a great coach, one can give 20 examples of an NFL head coach whose record in his first two years was poor and who never achieved any success.

Also, Loomis was asked about the team's age, and his response was "age is a number." Sadly, age is much more than a number in football and life, and the age of our star players and the relative lack of young players who are or can be star players are serious issues. (And yes, we have some very good young players, but not enough of them, and few have won postseason honors.)

While I'm not a DA fan some of the things ML said are not that far fetched.
The Belichick comparison is the closest one . BB was a failure in Cleveland and had his success in NE. You are correct about some of the things you mentioned about Noll, Landry, Walsh. What ALL of those HCs had that DA did not have and maybe does not have now is a franchise/ Elite QB, Bradshaw, Montana and Brady were all there in the beginning of their coaching tenure, heck Meredith was in Dallas when Landry started. DA had Winston and Dalton. Now I doubt DA will ever reach their status but some of the situation comparisons are not that unreasonable

 

[Colstonbaby]

The body language is really weird.

Loomis is chomping on gum. Loudly and rapidly.

Yanked out a piece of paper from his back pocket to rattle off a list of great coaches who had rough seasons their first few years to defend DA.

The gum chomping is ridiculous ...he has the arrogance of a man who cannot be fired!

 

[DSnfla]

The EXACT things they are saying about Penning are the EXACT same thing they said about Ruiz, and Pete. They couldn't play the position they were drafted to play either. Penning isn't even a RT, we will be lucky if he can play LG.

No they are not. 1st Peat didn't get hurt and miss almost all of his rookie yr. PLUS he was never going to beat out Armstead @ LT or Evans @LG or Strief @ RT. the plan was to move him to RT to replace Strief sooner or later. He struggled moving to the right side and in a effort to get the best 5 O linemen on the field, they moved him to LG in 2017. He had the benefit of almost 2 yrs of learning before starting @ a new position.
Ruiz came in during the Covid yr as a C. He was not gonna beat out all pro McCoy @ C so they switched him to LG a new position. He also had injury problems and did not look good his rookie yr. but he started to improve in his 2nd and 3rd yr. He seemed to just like the rest of the OL to regress this past yrt,hat may be because of Ram's knee issues and him playing next to him.
It's not that Peat or Ruiz could not play the position they were drafted it that we had ALL-PROs in those spots and to get the 5 best guys on the field they changed positions

 

[DSnfla]

All I know is this. There were 2 times in its Saints history, were the Saints fielded an elite unit for a good many years. The Mora's Dome Patrol defense, and the Sean/Drew offense. We didn't win all the time, but we genuinely scared teams. We were the best on one side of the ball or another. Those were fun times. We had swagger, we were on tv a lot and looked good.

I don't see that happening here. A coach either gets buy in from the team, or he doesn't.

Some thing Loomis fails tell you is Chuck Knol, Belicheck, Tom Landry..................weren't handed a (play off) rosters like ours.

But they were ALL handed franchise/ Elite QBs and what did DA get? I'm not a DA fan but that's just fact. Also fact we did not make the playoffs they before DA so it's not a playoff roster. It was a playoff roster when we had Brees

 

[Bayouboy]

The gum chomping is ridiculous ...he has the arrogance of a man who cannot be fired!

Considering he was in Benson's will and has more true "power" than any GM in the league......his job is secure, regardless of the win total.

 

[liveoakh]

But they were ALL handed franchise/ Elite QBs and what did DA get? I'm not a DA fan but that's just fact. Also fact we did not make the playoffs they before DA so it's not a playoff roster. It was a playoff roster when we had Brees

Handed elite QBs? No they were not , Noll, drafted Bradshaw, Belicheck drafted Tom, Landry drafted Staubach. They were HOF coaches. Come on man, you are asking us to take you seriously, but you come with this comparing HOF coaches to DAs suitability as head coach of the Saints.

Then Loomis was gaslighting us about this being a play off team., when he said we were "All in on this team" , "you have to act while the iron is hot" and all that trading on draft day. Loomis blew all kinds of play off hope up our behinds the last 2 seasons. Were did that exactly get us?

 

[liveoakh]

While I'm not a DA fan some of the things ML said are not that far fetched.
The Belichick comparison is the closest one . BB was a failure in Cleveland and had his success in NE. You are correct about some of the things you mentioned about Noll, Landry, Walsh. What ALL of those HCs had that DA did not have and maybe does not have now is a franchise/ Elite QB, Bradshaw, Montana and Brady were all there in the beginning of their coaching tenure, heck Meredith was in Dallas when Landry started. DA had Winston and Dalton. Now I doubt DA will ever reach their status but some of the situation comparisons are not that unreasonable

How do you expect us to take you and lucky Loomis seriously, when you are comparing DA , a coach that has the lowest W/L % in the NFL. 17th all time. To 3 HOF coaches.

 

[cant catch reggie]

seems psychotic

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

With the current discussion, the only point I would like to add is that Landry had success before Staubach. Dallas drafted Staubach in 1964 in a low round because he had a military commitment during the Vietnam war. Landry first had success with Don Meredith. And an interesting aside--the source in Cliff Christl who wrote the official four-volume history of the Packers--is that Lombardi traded to trade Starr to Dallas for Meredith but always dealt with Tex Schramm, who was the general manager. But Lombardi and Landry were distant when they worked together as assistants in New York and never had a good relationship.

 

[kcirdor]

Ohhh yeah I have. And the cake eaters know about as much about real baking as most posters on msg boards do about running an NFL offense

Except in your sample... the cake eaters have been sitting right there watching the baker make cakes for 40 years. Reading everything they can about the cakes they are making. Reading all they can about every other Baker making cakes in different cities... Even spent several years prepping high school and college cakes. So the cake eater has enough life experience and knowledge to be able to comment on the cake if they want to. If other cake eaters don't like it, they can simply ignore it. Nice features this website has.