Per Nick Underhill: Dennis Allen spoke extensively about the red zone issues. Says it’s a combination of play calls, execution and coaching (1 Viewer)

[EGLSShin]

An issue going on 2 years now. How come Dennis Allen always seems 3-4 games behind in his assessment of the team??? This guy doesn't have a clue.

Because he's a horrible headcoach. The only saving grace is there is some talent to work with on offense once he gets the boot at the end of the season. They just need to try and patch up the O.line in the offseason/draft picks. It's probably going to be a 2 year job from now and on to right a lot of the O.line woes.

 

[football]

I am not going to blame all these problem on Pete Carmichael. All the coaches don't seem to be insync with one another. Two weeks in a roll Offensive line coach not putting their players in position to block for Kamara. On misdirection plays, two defenders running free unblocked and tackled Kamara for a lost. Somewhere, someone is not doing their assignment. Then you have receivers running the same route. Tight ends are not getting open quick enough. It isn't the players, it is ALL the coaches not in sync with each other.

 

[Saint Spud]

Let me quote myself.


The enlarged, bold, red and underlined are the 3 quarterbacks that have played with Dennis Allen as head coach and Sneaky Pete as OC. I even placed them in order by passer rating. You singling out one name of the 3 listed speaks more about you than it does about me.

It doesn’t. Because I’m not the one who has been rationalizing and making excuses for one QB’s failures for months (years?) on here.

I want the Saints to win. I don’t care who’s playing QB. I was so excited when we signed Jeff Blake because it felt like we finally had someone who could win us football games at that position (rather than just hoping not to lose them). I loved watching Aaron Brooks despite the fact he went to UVA and I’m a VT grad. Brees was a revelation. But I was really excited to see Jameis with SP. and it was awesome until he got hurt. And without SP, (and yes, with Pete), Jameis showed similar problems that had plagued him in other spots. The difference is that Carr has a much more successful overall body of work to fall back on.

Whether it’s Hebert, Fourcade, Everett, the traveling circus of Billy Joes, Kerry Collins, Blake, Brooks, Brees, Taysom, Winston, Dalton, Carr or whoever else, I want to see what’s best for the team. PC is clearly awful. But I’ve got more faith that Carr can be successful, regardless of system, than anyone we’ve had at the position since Brees retired. And if not? Hopefully we crash sooner than later and can get someone in the building we can all get behind.

 

[Taker597]

 

[BreesusSaves]

 

[Centmssaint1]

The personnel packages in the red zone combined with the playcalling are atrocious!!

 

[Madmarsha]

Keep doing what you're doing. It's bound to work eventually.

 

[Taker597]

Watching trainwrecks

 

[Centmssaint1]

Keep doing what you're doing. It's bound to work eventually.

Carr getting desperate and trying to play street ball at that point.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

Bad game planning leads to these types of in game adjustments that they never practiced or ran before.

 

[Saint Spud]

Keep doing what you're doing. It's bound to work eventually.

Beat me to it lol

 

[jahsoul357]

It doesn’t. Because I’m not the one who has been rationalizing and making excuses for one QB’s failures for months (years?) on here.

I want the Saints to win. I don’t care who’s playing QB. I was so excited when we signed Jeff Blake because it felt like we finally had someone who could win us football games at that position (rather than just hoping not to lose them). I loved watching Aaron Brooks despite the fact he went to UVA and I’m a VT grad. Brees was a revelation. But I was really excited to see Jameis with SP. and it was awesome until he got hurt. And without SP, (and yes, with Pete), Jameis showed similar problems that had plagued him in other spots. The difference is that Carr has a much more successful overall body of work to fall back on.

Whether it’s Hebert, Fourcade, Everett, the traveling circus of Billy Joes, Kerry Collins, Blake, Brooks, Brees, Taysom, Winston, Dalton, Carr or whoever else, I want to see what’s best for the team. PC is clearly awful. But I’ve got more faith that Carr can be successful, regardless of system, than anyone we’ve had at the position since Brees retired. And if not? Hopefully we crash sooner than later and can get someone in the building we can all get behind.

I'm rationalizing but you still can't come to grips with Carr's deficiencies? I harped on Derek Carr in the red zone all offseason and yall took it as me advocating for Winston, when in fact, Derek Carr is really just that bad in the red zone. I want the man to succeed and stated that but dang, every red flag that we are seeing with Carr now was there for 9 seasons of film and if local "mainstream" media actually discussed that instead of the Airline directed sunshine pumping, maybe the conversations could have been more civil and all of us would have realized that bringing Carr in wasn't going to fix any of the issues, no matter what the media and DA was telling us. Our view of Carr is based totally on perception because if people watched the games/films like they said, nothing that we see should be new to us. Being in Sneaky Pete's trash offense just exacerbates it.

I still have us pegged at winning 10 games but outside of hitting our stride or a miracle, don't see a deep playoff run.

 

[Taker597]

I'm rationalizing but you still can't come to grips with Carr's deficiencies? I harped on Derek Carr in the red zone all offseason and yall took it as me advocating for Winston, when in fact, Derek Carr is really just that bad in the red zone. I want the man to succeed and stated that but dang, every red flag that we are seeing with Carr now was there for 9 seasons of film and if local "mainstream" media actually discussed that instead of the Airline directed sunshine pumping, maybe the conversations could have been more civil and all of us would have realized that bringing Carr in wasn't going to fix any of the issues, no matter what the media and DA was telling us. Our view of Carr is based totally on perception because if people watched the games/films like they said, nothing that we see should be new to us. Being in Sneaky Pete's trash offense just exacerbates it.

I still have us pegged at winning 10 games but outside of hitting our stride or a miracle, don't see a deep playoff run.

I find this stance ultimately redundant in a league where Goff, Flacco, Stafford, and Cousins can excell and have 13 win campaigns for their clubs. You need better coaching first and foremost.

You don't need elite play at QB to have success or carry a bad playcaller. Medicore QBs get hot all the time.

 

[Saint Taysom]

The Saints have given up 20 points or less in 10 out of the last 12 games… and they’re 6-6 over that span.

 

[LiterOCola]

Pete’s Tin Cup moment.

“Just lay it up”

“Give me another ball”

Pete knew he was going to get hammered all week for the call, so he stubbornly decided he was going to show everyone it could work and in the process blew the game.