Article Per PFT: Saints switch Taysom to QB on roster designation. (1 Viewer)

[meily]

I know the Haener fans are gonna be livid.

Hell, I would want Haener in over Taysom....
This is a headscratcher....

It's about taking advantage of roster flexibility. If Carr goes down for any extended time Winston would be the #1 but Hill will remain the #2 for roster flexibility.

How are people confused with a concept clearly explained in the source article??

 

[King_Kamala61]

It's about taking advantage of roster flexibility. If Carr goes down for any extended time Winston or Haener would be the #1 but Hill will remain the #2 for roster flexibility.

How are people confused with an concept clearly explained in the source article??

I didn't click on it due to the fact I may get hit with a pay wall. That is a thing ya know these days. Get ya all excited and then boom! Ray Lewis you with a pay wall...dangerous times we living in.

 

[BreesusSaves]

I know the Haener fans are gonna be livid.

Hell, I would want Haener in over Taysom....
This is a headscratcher....

This has nothing to do with Haener and everything to do with gaming the NFL's new gameday roster system. The Saints will have one more spot they can use on any position because they'll still have Winston in reserve.

Carr is still the starting QB.
Winston is still QB2.
Hill is still going to be Football.

The Saints simply realized they can exploit a loophole and gain an extra active player on gamedays.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I believe Taysom will still be able to play in his joker role even though he is designated as a QB. Would love to see a play like Carr takes the snap and throws a backwards pass and Taysom hits Shaheed streaking down the sideline for a 50 yd. TD. A guy can dream can't he?

That would be great! However it all shakes out I’ll be rooting for them to do great, no matter which player it is lol.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Yea you reaching again....we are fans of the team and then fans of a player specifically. Please don't look into things any further than surface level.

Again as stated before, Haener must have not shown enough to be in the role of QB#3 even though I think he should.

So like another poster said Taysom must got the designation as qb to get in on some plays to throw some.

I really don't know about this at all. I'm totally swamped at the "whys" "hows" and "whats".

Lol I’m not reaching at all. That is some very rich projection tho.

I’m a fan of the team, and every player on it, so the cliques are funny to me, that’s all. Fan how ya wanna, to each their own.

As to this instance it seems the team is gaming the system, as others have alluded to. We shall see how it all shakes out. On Jake, he isn’t anywhere near ready imo, still think he has a shot tho.

NFL sends out "Emergency Third Quarterback" Q&A

The NFL is notoriously reactive, rarely proactive.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Thunderchild]

This will be a subject covered on tomorrow morning's Locked on Saints with Ross Jackson (youtube).

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

This will be a subject covered on tomorrow morning's Locked on Saints with Ross Jackson (youtube).

Love Ross, thank you for the heads up.

 

[livefromDC]

This has nothing to do with Haener and everything to do with gaming the NFL's new gameday roster system. The Saints will have one more spot they can use on any position because they'll still have Winston in reserve.

Carr is still the starting QB.
Winston is still QB2.
Hill is still going to be Football.

The Saints simply realized they can exploit a loophole and gain an extra active player on gamedays.

It's also risky though. Albeit the chance of Carr and Winston both getting hurt is low, the 9ers proved it's not 0%.
If I understand this correctly, Hill becomes the #2 QB allowing Winston to be active as the 47th player on gameday essentially allowing the Saints to carry an extra player. If Carr gets injured and Winston goes in as the emergency QB, Hill can no longer enter the game as a QB. The Saints will have no other alternatives at QB.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

It's also risky though. Albeit the chance of Carr and Winston both getting hurt is low, the 9ers proved it's not 0%.
If I understand this correctly, Hill becomes the #2 QB allowing Winston to be active as the 47th player on gameday essentially allowing the Saints to carry an extra player. If Carr gets injured and Winston goes in as the emergency QB, Hill can no longer enter the game as a QB. The Saints will have no other alternatives at QB.

Taysom will enter the game as Carr’s replacement QB2 if Carr’s injured. Winston/emergency QB3 can only enter game if both the QB1 and QB2 are injured according to the rule. Once either of the QB1 or QB2 are medically cleared to return to the game, Winston or emergency QB3 has to return to the sideline for one of the QB1 or QB2 to reenter the game. Emergency QB3 doesn’t enter the game unless QB2 gets injured.

 

[Thunderchild]

If Carr gets injured and Winston goes in as the emergency QB, Hill can no longer enter the game as a QB. The Saints will have no other alternatives

From a post I made in another thread:

I don't think that's true, but I do know once the emergency QB goes in, the other's can't go back in even if they were to get cleared medically.

Not quite. That's the old rule. Under this newer version of the rule, the injured QB(s) can go back in. The old rule was written the way you mention. The new rule changes that aspect (and a few others - link below).

A couple of interesting tidbits of the new version of the 3rd QB rule.

Are clubs allowed to play an Emergency Third Quarterback in non-traditional fashion (i.e., Wildcat formation)?

No. An Emergency Third Quarterback who enters a game must line up under center or in shotgun and must take the snap. No other player may take a snap if the Emergency Third Quarterback is in the game. An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to quick kick, but is not permitted to line up as the punter or play on special teams.

What are the procedures for either QB1 or QB2 returning to the game after a club uses its Emergency Third Quarterback?

If either QB1 or QB2 is cleared to return to play by the medical staff, such player must re-enter the game by reporting to the referee. At such time, the Emergency Third Quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be assessed if QB1 or QB2 does not properly report to the referee upon re-entering the game. The referee or a member of the officiating crew will notify the opposing head coach that QB1 or QB2 has re-entered the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game. The referee will make a public announcement that QB1 or QB2 has returned to the game and the Emergency Third Quarterback has exited the game.

If either QB1 or QB2 re-enters but later can't continue due to disqualification or injury, is the Emergency Third Quarterback allowed to re-enter a game?

Yes. The Emergency Third Quarterback remains eligible to return to the game if another Emergency Third Quarterback situation arises.

How 49ers can use NFL's new emergency third QB rule

How will the new emergency third QB rule work? The NFL released a Q&A that addresses any and all concerns.

www.nbcsportsbayarea.com

 

[LUX]

Exactly, moving Taysom back to QB on paper gives the team flexibility to have more useful depth active at other positions. We only need 2 QBs active on gameday. Taysom being the active QB2 allows him to enter the game anytime for any package, while being able to run the offense in case of injury, and we can carry additional OL, LB, DB, or any other position on the active list.

I think it has more to do with our TEs now that I think about it. TE room is stacked so Hill can come in games and play QB on certain snaps. Might also help with Kamara out the 1st 3 games as well.

 

[St. Pike]

Yea you reaching again....we are fans of the team and then fans of a player specifically.

You speak for yourself. I am a fan of every player on the team. If they all play, then it's an easy victory!

The only exception would be fantasy football enthusiasts, but fantasy stuff is counterproductive if you are a fan of a team.


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[LUX]

It's about taking advantage of roster flexibility. If Carr goes down for any extended time Winston or Haener would be the #1 but Hill will remain the #2 for roster flexibility.

How are people confused with an concept clearly explained in the source article??

I didn't click the link either. I still don't think what is being explained is the truth. Saints still have Hill as the #3 on QB depth.

Just like most articles, it's their opinion (click bait) and there are people like Jeff Duncan who don't know what they're talking about.

Anyway, TE room is stacked so Hill would be more beneficial to the team under QB where he does his thing as usual the previous seasons. He was QB 3 while Brees was here behind Winston and Hill was still taking snaps while Brees was NOT injured. It's not about emergency QB. Should Carr get injured, Winston will come in as Winston earned QB 2 spot.

 

[St. Geezy]

My guess is that Taysom would serve as our game day backup only. If Carr misses more than that game though, Winston becomes the starter.

Why hold an active roster spot for Winston every week for the remote possibility of the starter going down?

Hill can hold down the fort for us for a couple of quarters if need-be.

 

[Sumdude34]

I totally get listing Hill as the #3 QB so you have him in case you need him, but he can still do his normal stuff.

I don't love basically making him the week-to-week backup QB over JW when he hadn't had any meaningful snaps at the position in this new offense. I hope the article is wrong on this strategy. I think it's time to commit to Carr/JW and not over complicate things just because Hill is super versatile.