Rattler is the only right answer (5 Viewers)

[SystemShock]

Some of you guys have very weak stomachs

 

[Rouxble]

I'm not getting excited for 11/21, 135 yards and a TD. Don't care if it was only 1 half of football.

It was actually 10/21, but I understand what you're saying. He looks better than any other young QB we've brought in during the last few decades, but he is still very much a work-in-progress.

For QB's with at least as many attempts as Rattler (42 QB's):

• FTN has him tied for the 7th highest turnover-worthy throw rate
• PFF has him tied for the 9th highest turnover-worthy play rate
• PFF also has him with the third highest pressure-to-sack ratio, and some would say sacks are a QB stat while pressures are an OL stat.
• He has the second lowest TD rate and the third lowest success rate.

Sure, Rattler has shown a few flashes, and like a lot of young QB's he has probably been in less than ideal situations, but he has a lot to prove before he can establish himself as the future of the franchise. Right now, he has seen the second most single high coverage among QB's with the same amount of attempts, so teams are forcing him to find a way to win games. Let's see if he can get his first win as a starter.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I would be really surprised if Rattler can be a good QB in the NFL. He was benched for turning the ball over at USC, and fans were boo’ing him. Rumors out of OU is that’s why he chose to leave OU. He was sour pants after the fans grew frustrated of his turnovers.

We haven’t seen a lot of Rattler. But we have seen his tendency to turn the ball over similar to his time spent in OU.

Just for comparison, Rattler threw 32 ints in 4 years while Jayden Daniels threw 20 in 5 years.

We’ve already seen a couple in his limited snaps this year. It’s possible Rattler ends up being another interception machine similar or even worse then Winston.

Not trying to beat the kid down, but if your getting excited thinking he’s the answer or should be our QB going forward, probability says your very likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

I think the more realistic idea is that he has a chance here to prove that he should be the backup going forward while we hunt for a future starting QB

You’re spot on but I don’t mind the team rolling with him next season…we need a rebuild anyways. I do not get the hype with Rattler but would love to end up being wrong as it would help the team tremendously.

I do think he’s better than Haener and also think Carr isn’t leading us anywhere, so I’m all for it.

 

[B4YOU]

Carr is 12th in QBR, 11th in Passer Rating, 12th in EPA, and 5th in Any/A.

Saints are getting more than they paid: 12-14 QB play on the 16th most expensive contract. It’s not Baker Mayfield great value, but it’s also not Cousins/Prescott terrible value.

We start Carr in 2025 because we have 48M dead cap and his play requires that.

We are looking to 2026 as “cheap QB rebuild year” when releasing Carr becomes cap manageable.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I would be really surprised if Rattler can be a good QB in the NFL. He was benched for turning the ball over at USC, and fans were boo’ing him. Rumors out of OU is that’s why he chose to leave OU. He was sour pants after the fans grew frustrated of his turnovers.

We haven’t seen a lot of Rattler. But we have seen his tendency to turn the ball over similar to his time spent in OU.

Just for comparison, Rattler threw 32 ints in 4 years while Jayden Daniels threw 20 in 5 years.

We’ve already seen a couple in his limited snaps this year. It’s possible Rattler ends up being another interception machine similar or even worse then Winston.

Not trying to beat the kid down, but if your getting excited thinking he’s the answer or should be our QB going forward, probability says your very likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

I think the more realistic idea is that he has a chance here to prove that he should be the backup going forward while we hunt for a future starting QB

If you do some research, Rattler was challenged at SC to cut down on his turnover worth plays following his junior season.

He responded by throwing 1 more TD against 4 less INTs and finished with his best TD:INT ratio of his 5 year career.

All that w/ less talent than he had the prior year as his primary WR Juice Wells went down early in the season

I understand being cautious about Rattler but please apply context in statements vs just attempting to trash the player.

Much like he showed improvement in his last game from his 1st three, he also showed improvement in his shortcomings during his final season.

Suggesting he takes to coaching

 

[syeager]

I would be really surprised if Rattler can be a good QB in the NFL. He was benched for turning the ball over at USC, and fans were boo’ing him. Rumors out of OU is that’s why he chose to leave OU. He was sour pants after the fans grew frustrated of his turnovers.

We haven’t seen a lot of Rattler. But we have seen his tendency to turn the ball over similar to his time spent in OU.

Just for comparison, Rattler threw 32 ints in 4 years while Jayden Daniels threw 20 in 5 years.

We’ve already seen a couple in his limited snaps this year. It’s possible Rattler ends up being another interception machine similar or even worse then Winston.

Not trying to beat the kid down, but if your getting excited thinking he’s the answer or should be our QB going forward, probability says your very likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

I think the more realistic idea is that he has a chance here to prove that he should be the backup going forward while we hunt for a future starting QB

The best thing about Rattler so far is his cool name.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

In March only his $10 million roster bonus is guaranteed. His $30 million salary for 2025 isn’t guaranteed until the new league year kicks off which is in March, I believe. We’d have to release him before that.

I saw his dead cap hit at 50,000,000.00

 

[SonOfNOLA]

I would be really surprised if Rattler can be a good QB in the NFL. He was benched for turning the ball over at USC, and fans were boo’ing him. Rumors out of OU is that’s why he chose to leave OU. He was sour pants after the fans grew frustrated of his turnovers.

We haven’t seen a lot of Rattler. But we have seen his tendency to turn the ball over similar to his time spent in OU.

Just for comparison, Rattler threw 32 ints in 4 years while Jayden Daniels threw 20 in 5 years.

We’ve already seen a couple in his limited snaps this year. It’s possible Rattler ends up being another interception machine similar or even worse then Winston.

Not trying to beat the kid down, but if your getting excited thinking he’s the answer or should be our QB going forward, probability says your very likely setting yourself up for disappointment.

I think the more realistic idea is that he has a chance here to prove that he should be the backup going forward while we hunt for a future starting QB

In comparison to Rattler’s 32 ints in college: Baker Mayfield (#1 overall pick) had 30 ints in 4 years at TTU and OU. Russell Wilson (mid-3rd round/eventual HOF) had 30 ints in 4 years at NCSU and UW. Wilson had two seasons of double digit ints, 11 and 14, compared to Rattler’s one, 12.

 

[Rexman100]

To put this into perspective; Rattler is outplaying the guy who supplanted him at Oklahoma, especially when you consider how loaded at WR Chicago is compared to Rattler playing with street free agents. "Well he didn't play well in his earlier starts!" He was playing with 3rd,, 4th, and 5th stringers at the IOL positions against some of the best defenses in the league. Haener was underwhelming with the starting OL mostly intact against a middle-tier defense. Does anyone honestly think Haener leads a comeback in the second half?

JH isnt a bad QB, but to be great you need to almost be perfect. Taking a single sack in the NFL is unacceptable. Because a sack is a drive killer and because the margin is mostly a one score game, could be a game killer as well. JH took multiple avoidable drive killing sacks He also threw a forced (frustration) pick, also a deal breaker. So a change needed to happen at half, it was crystal clear. However, JH isnt that far away. Had a couple drops not happen, he couldve had success.

 

[tyler735]

In comparison to Rattler’s 32 ints in college: Baker Mayfield (#1 overall pick) had 30 ints in 4 years at TTU and OU. Russell Wilson (mid-3rd round/eventual HOF) had 30 ints in 4 years at NCSU and UW. Wilson had two seasons of double digit ints, 11 and 14, compared to Rattler’s one, 12.

Mahomes also had 2 seasons of double digit interceptions at Texas Tech. Josh Allen had 21 interceptions in 2 seasons as a starter at Wyoming. Matthew Stafford had 10+ interceptions in all 3 of his college seasons. Kirk Cousins had 30 interceptions in 3 years as a starter in college. Jordan Love had 17 interceptions in his final college season.

Given this list of several of the best QB's in the NFL, dare I say, college interception totals are not a good indicator for a QB's ability to develop into a quality starter in the NFL.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

I truly believe we will see if he has it or not Monday Night. He absolutely improved from his starts to where he was against the Commanders. Hopefully that wasn't just backup QB magic. Hopefully he will take another step forward.

 

[Rexman100]

You’re spot on but I don’t mind the team rolling with him next season…we need a rebuild anyways. I do not get the hype with Rattler but would love to end up being wrong as it would help the team tremendously.

I do think he’s better than Haener and also think Carr isn’t leading us anywhere, so I’m all for it.

I think w/ Rattler, its not really what has he done as much as what will he do, once he has a quality oline and a few games under his belt. So he's had the 3 games earlier in the season. And now he has a quality oline. I cant be for sure, but it seems like he made some progress since his last game starting. He didnt get sacked and he didnt turn the ball over. (a potential pick was dropped) So there's that. But im w/ Rouxable, its time for a win. He showed in one 1/2 that he can compete w/ Wash. So naturally people are going to project a win, if he had a full game. So its time for him to show significant growth vs GB. IMO, the team lays down if JH would start. With Rattler im hoping our offense gets the ball first. Becasue If we score or flip the field, then our D will at least feel in the game. (If GB were to score first quickly, the O will have to respond w/ a score)

 

[WilliamBrees]

Manning isn't going to be avaliable in 2026, Manning family values school. Unless he graduates early.

That said, I don't think the Saints will be bad enough to draft him. There are so many bad teams on a worse path than N.O. Tennessee, NYG NYJ LVR, CAR, JAX.

Yes even Jax, best thing they can do is hope to land a top qb. Lawrence is definitely not the answer. Just gotta eat that mistake and move on.

To me Titans are probably the suitable AFC team he will go to that will be drafting high. However, not in 2026 where they might beat the bottom feeders Raiders, Patriots, and Panthers on their schedule. Raiders will probably have the worst record in the AFC. If Arch gets drafted by the Jets, Browns, Jaguars, or Raiders, well, remember 2004.

The NFC teams likely to pick high are the Giants and Panthers. I do not believe the Manning family wants Arch playing in a division with the Cowboys and Eagles where he will lose some. Eli got the unfair blame for that team's problems and until they fix it the Mannings are staying away.

 

[webster]

Rattler is the young prospect. Don’t need to collect more projects and question marks at QB.

If he isn’t determined to be long term after two camps, then they have to draft a definite starter in 2026.

Competition is needed, he had one good game. I hope he continues to show promise, but I would like a big gun with a high ceiling.

 

[webster]

Doing that in the next draft would likely be a mistake. It's mid-city this year homie.

Sometimes the draft gurus are wrong, there maybe a few good NFL qbs from this draft.