Saints at the top of Davante Adams’ wish list [“Saints might just be the favorite” per Fowler; Saints not agreeing on draft pick comp yet] (100 Viewers)

[saintsmarchin]

So it's a bidding war between Jets and Saints..

With Mcvay wondering if he can give his 1st for him on the side.


On a side note.. if Saints got Adams.. they would have the best 3 WR set in football.. and would only need to recover from injuries to be the NFCs top team.

1 man isn't a team ofc.. but 1 playmaker can make a team exponentially more devastating.

Personally if our injured players get better... you go out and get Adam's.

You have a legitimate shot at having the Saints in the superbowl in New Orleans you go all in... this may be our last shot at taking it all before that aged defense falls off.

 

[money941]

I don't have a problem with trading for Adams if the price is right in terms of trade compensation and an adjustment to his contract. I'd rather trade for OL help, but I don't know if there is anyone available on the OL that would be an upgrade and I doubt anyone is at the talent level Adams is. So, you take the market opportunity if it is there.

But, I don't think the protection has been fine. It was fine against Carolina and Dallas, but it was down right terrible against Philly. They couldn't keep Carter out of Carr's face. It was okay against Atlanta, but that is a pretty weak OL. I think it will continue to be a problem against teams with good pass rushers on the interior like Kansas City for instance.

Moreover, a lot of the reason it was fine in the games it was fine in is because we were often in 12 and 21 personnel with TEs and FBs in to help the pass protection. That means either Shaheed or Adams would often be on the bench while you try to max protect. Which isn't ideal and kind of means that you aren't really adding a full weapon to the offense.

That being said, sure go get Adams, but don't pay more than a 4th round pick and he is going to need to do something about his salary cap hit for this year and the next two years. It's going to be hard to even fit him under the cap this year and it could mean having to extend Kamara or convert his salary which could mean more dead money if they don't give him a new contract which they seem reluctant to do. And we can't use up too much cap space or use up higher draft picks because next year we likely will need to sign or draft two Edge rushers, an OL or two, a CB or sign Adebo, a Safety or two, and a TE.

I also have a lot of concerns trading for a 32 year-old WR with a 3 year contract when I don't really think we are a contender this year and I don't think Adams is the difference between making the playoffs or not. But maybe I'm wrong and he is.

Just as an example of how it could help, when Beckham got traded to the Rams he had like 5 touchdowns in 8 games. And I would say Adams is in a similar talent level as he was then if not more. Having said that, once it's reported the Saints are interested in anyone, I immediately don't think we get that player.

 

[St. Widge]

Not that the Raiders have been particularly smart, but you would think the Raiders would let this go down to the wire of the trade deadline in hopes of getting the best deal. They have no real motivation to act before then unless Adams goes Ceedy Deuce in the locker room.

 

[Merl]

Adams would have to restructure his contract in a big way - like down to $12-16M per year. Even with that, we'd have to restructure someone to make room. A 2nd round pick is too much for a one or two year WR rental. No more than a 3rd round pick.

12-16m wouldn't be enough for this year. It would need to be down to vet minimum just to get under what the Saints have left in cap space this year.

 

[BreesusSaves]

The Saints desperately need a genuinely elite edge rusher and OL depth.

So trading future draft and cap capital for a 31 year old Wide Receiver is perfect.

 

[St. Widge]

Just as an example of how it could help, when Beckham got traded to the Rams he had like 5 touchdowns in 8 games. And I would say Adams is in a similar talent level as he was then if not more. Having said that, once it's reported the Saints are interested in anyone, I immediately don't think we get that player.

Sure but the circumstances are different for all teams. Adams is a very good player, but if we still have to play in 12 and 21 most of the time and can't protect Carr, having Adams is going to be of marginal benefit at best since it would just mean less snaps for Shaheed.

 

[St. Widge]

12-16m wouldn't be enough for this year. It would need to be down to vet minimum just to get under what the Saints have left in cap space this year.

Yep. That or they would have to do something with Kamara's contract.

 

[los226]

Adams would have to restructure his contract in a big way - like down to $12-16M per year. Even with that, we'd have to restructure someone to make room. A 2nd round pick is too much for a one or two year WR rental. No more than a 3rd round pick.

We’ve wasted second rounders on much worse than a one or two year rental for an elite WR. Right now is the time to take a risk with the Super Bowl being in NOLA.

 

[DerrickB]

 

[St. Widge]

We’ve wasted second rounders on much worse than a one or two year rental for an elite WR. Right now is the time to take a risk with the Super Bowl being in NOLA.

This team isn't Davante Adams away from the Super Bowl. The pass rush and OL aren't good enough.

If they can get Adams for a good price fine, make the deal. But they shouldn't mortgage the future for a 32 year-old WR when they refuse to pay their 29 year-old RB or extend his contract. If they are going to mortgage the future to pay an older player, I'd rather give that money to Kamara over Adams, And, an Adams deal likely means they won't pay Kamara. So, that's the likely trade off.

 

[BreesusSaves]

This team isn't Davante Adams away from the Super Bowl. The pass rush and OL aren't good enough.

If this was for Maxx Crosby, I'd be foaming at the mouth for Loomis to go full Loomis on it.

 

[Rouxble]

Sure but the circumstances are different for all teams. Adams is a very good player, but if we still have to play in 12 and 21 most of the time and can't protect Carr, having Adams is going to be of marginal benefit at best since it would just mean less snaps for Shaheed.

I think Olave/Adams is a much better combo than Olave/Shaheed even if that is the case. Adams will almost certainly be the better option on short to intermediate routes with his route running plus contested catch ability, and if protection is an issue Carr will not always have the luxury of time to wait for Shaheed to get behind the defense.

The Saints did play more 11 personnel against the Falcons, with 28 snaps (39%). We were pass heavy in 11 personnel, passing 86% of the time (83% of the time if you exclude third down). We ran 67% of the time in all other personnel groups.

 

[DerrickB]

If this was for Maxx Crosby, I'd be foaming at the mouth for Loomis to go full Loomis on it.

That's who really needs to be moved if we're being honest.

 

[DoubleSaint]

If it’s another weapon that Carr feels comfortable throwing to rather than him forcing it to Shaheed, and the price is right….then get it done Loomis.

 

[austxsaintfan]

My pie in the sky trade idea:

Saints extend Kamara to 3/36 making the remaining cap this year $12m

Saints save $6.5m add to existing $4.m gives them $11m in cap space.



Trade a 2025 3th rd and 2026 4th rd plus Paulson Adebo has about $3m remaining and a fa next year plus Isaiah Foskey has about $1.5m remaining and 2 more years.



Saints receive Davante Adams from Raiders who eat $9m of $19m remaining. They have $27.5m in cap space. Adams is FA next year (saints work on a new contract but not part of this deal). Saints also receive Andrus Peat (only started 1 game and a total of 31 snaps) and has $1.5m in cap hit remaining. He is also a FA.



Saints spend $11.5m and have $15m (existing $4m, plus $6.5 saved in Kamara extension plus $3m in Adebo and $1.5m in Foskey)


Why this is fair for Raiders? Adams doesn't want to be there. Adebo would be their 1st or 2nd best CB. Everyone knows Saints have talented DL/LB that they can't develop and do well elsewhere so why not take a shot at Foskey who has several more years left on deal which is cheap. Plus they get a 3rd round pick in 2025 and 4th in 2026.