Saints at the top of Davante Adams’ wish list [Raiders trade Adams to Jets for conditional 3rd ; Jets paying Adams’ entire remaining salary] (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

No we can't. At the trade deadline he will still be owed at least $8M for this year. Per OTC the Saints have currently have $2.5M in space for this year. Unless they get Kamara to agree to a new deal those numbers don't work. Kamara stated after training camp that the time for negotiations are over until after the season so that may not happen.

Question though as I'm far from a salary capologist...if the Saints agree to trade for Adams, let's say for a 4th and the Raiders eat enough of the remaining salary to get it to the $2.5 million they have remaining. If they did that, then they wouldn't need to mess with AK's contract. That would be doable, no?

 

[Merl]

Question though as I'm far from a salary capologist...if the Saints agree to trade for Adams, let's say for a 4th and the Raiders eat enough of the remaining salary to get it to the $2.5 million they have remaining. If they did that, then they wouldn't need to mess with AK's contract. That would be doable, no?

Every time a player under contact goes on IR the team still has to pay him and whoever takes that roster spot so there is an additional cap hit when that happens. 2.5M just might not be enough depending on when in the season that happens.

 

[DaveXA]

Every time a player under contact goes on IR the team still has to pay him and whoever takes that roster spot so there is an additional cap hit when that happens. 2.5M just might not be enough depending on when in the season that happens.

Well, assuming no additional IR guys (i know that's not likely), the 2.5 million would be intact, could they make it work?

 

[Merl]

Well, assuming no additional IR guys (i know that's not likely), the 2.5 million would be intact, could they make it work?

Not likely until week 9-10 depending on the math.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

There was a report the other day that the Raiders are unwilling to eat the salary and that they wanted a 2nd and more. That may be posturing but unreasonable and Loomis is holding firm on what he will give as he should.

Loomis needs to play chicken with them. Whether they pay a portion or keep him and eat it all, they have to make that call.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

BY all that is holy. It does NOT matter what the remaining yrs on his deal are !!!! . They are NOT GUARANTEED . which means that NO TEAM is obligated to honor it . He can be CUT with no financial obligation!!!!. Adams has NO SAY if he gets cut to avoid those yrs and that 71 mil SMH . C'mon man . NO matter what him or his agent want

But that is important. Would you want to give up much knowing we may have to cut him for nothing after the season?

 

[DSnfla]

No we can't. At the trade deadline he will still be owed at least $8M for this year. Per OTC the Saints have currently have $2.5M in space for this year. Unless they get Kamara to agree to a new deal those numbers don't work. Kamara stated after training camp that the time for negotiations are over until after the season so that may not happen.

Did you see where I said ALMOST???

 

[DSnfla]

But that is important. Would you want to give up much knowing we may have to cut him for nothing after the season?

I can all but guarantee that ML and his agent have already had talks about what it would take to re-negotiate more yrs on his contract . I'd bet $$ on it

 

[DSnfla]

Question though as I'm far from a salary capologist...if the Saints agree to trade for Adams, let's say for a 4th and the Raiders eat enough of the remaining salary to get it to the $2.5 million they have remaining. If they did that, then they wouldn't need to mess with AK's contract. That would be doable, no?

Yes

 

[GQ Gemini]

 

[DSnfla]

Come on guys, the math really isn't that hard. Under your premise of get him now, cut him before next year. He makes ~$1 million a week. Including this week there are 12 weeks left, so ~$12 million plus his per game roster bonuses. The Saints have roughly $3 million left in cap space for 2024. They need to keep a big part of that to work the bottom of the roster week to week. Nearly all of Adams contract would need to be converted to a signing bonus. If the trade happened today and they were forced to cut him before the beginning of the next season the Saints would have to take on that $12 million as dead cap. That would move the cap they need to shed to $93 million before the beginning of the league year, before dealing with the likely retirements of Cam Jordan and Ryan Ramczyk which will add even more.

For a guy who turns 32 in December, and is either disgruntled or injured. To a team that has a real possibility of being 2-5 by next Friday.

My premise is not to cut him next yr but to re-negotiate his deal for 2-3 yrs with a reasonable guarantee. . You keep harping on Adam being 32 , 1st he's 31 now and will play most of next yr @ 32 yrs old if you knew much about Adams you'd know that his game is not one that relies on speed, the main thing that a WR starts to lose with age . His game is route running , getting open and contested catches. So he will perform at a high level for the next 2-3 yrs

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Hope he stays and we dodge a bullet.

 

[soggymoss84]

Mike G says it seems like its “Jets or bust right now” and Raiders are adamant they will not pay a dime of the contract in a trade

 

[SAINTSFAN]

I can all but guarantee that ML and his agent have already had talks about what it would take to re-negotiate more yrs on his contract . I'd bet $$ on it

Well that is a much different situation than saying that we can just release him after the season. If they can renegotiate a deal for future years that makes sense, that makes it much more palatable than a 9-10 game rental with the intent of releasing him as you mentioned earlier.

 

[sainthood]

Adams to New Orleans makes no sense for the following reasons: neither Olave or Shaheed or WR3s and both will get paid on the market as at minimum WR2s if not overpaid. Signing the older Adams is in time sacrificing a young talent. Secondly, Adams contract is untenable and the problem. The Raiders have put their team like with Carr in a position where they will eventually cut Adams trade or release Adams. No team wants Adams contract next year with his low output in Vegas. The best scenario, the only scenario, the Saints should consider is Vegas cuts Adams and we sign him in the offseason at a contract after Olave has a new deal. You do not go through all we did to get Olave and then trade that for an older more expensive player at his position. It would just be dumb.