Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (67 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

How in the heck are you comparing a guy who led his teams to the playoffs 13 out of his 18 seasons and has a Super Bowl win to a guy who has never won a playoff game and a career overall losing record?

He's more Sean Payton than Carr and it's not close, lol.

 

[Saint Jack]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

McCarthy has a Super Bowl.
He’s also in the top twenty in coaching wins in the history of the league.

 

[St. Widge]

I could not think of a less exciting pick than McCarthy. I'm surprised people here are so gung ho for him. Seems to be a high floor low ceiling coach. The derek carr of coaches if you will.

He's certainly not exciting, but the guy has won a Super Bowl, been in 4 NFC Championship games, has a .608 career winning percentage, has been in the playoffs 13 of his 18 years as a HC, and was 12-5 three of the last four years. How is that a low ceiling? Seems like an incredibly low risk hire which isn't exciting, but it's not a low ceiling.

And I'm not sure how that's anything like Carr who hasn't won anything anywhere.

 

[DaveXA]

McCarthy alienated his way out of Green Bay,

Aaron Rodgers...need i say more?

and he did little with Dallas' talent when it mattered.

Maybe, but Dallas is Jerry's team no matter who is HC at Dallas.

He's a retread.

No, he's an active coach who has more skins on the wall than any other candidate, and its not close.

He won a Super Bowl with a generational QB after we did, which was a long time ago.

So? Same can be said of Payton. Look what hes doing now in Denver.

Dak's ceiling with McCarthy is set in stone which is probably why they have to move on from McCarthy in Dallas.

Dak is a good qb, but he too often disappears when the game is on the line.

If Mickey rescues this guy like he rescued Derek out of Vegas, the Mickey brainrot is worse than currently assessed.

Comparing Carr with McCarthy is looney tunes.

If he falls for McCarthy's availability without waiting for playoff assistants to free up, then God help us all.

Dramatic much?

 

[St. Geezy]

I feel like most of the people hating on McCarthy are doing so because a.) he has the stain of the Cowboys star on him, and b.) because he’s a long time coach with “only” one ring, and is deemed overall as a boring guy personality-wise.

The guy’s results as a team leader and program facilitator are remarkable though, akin to Sean Payton.

As Saints fans, we should all be well aware by now just how fragile a season could be and how sometimes, many times, acts outside of your control dictate whether or not you advance regularly in the playoffs.

Hell, even the year we won our only Super Bowl, do we get there if the Redskins’ kicker doesn’t miss a chip shot FG which eventually helped us get homefield advantage, or the ball doesn’t keep bouncing our way in the NFC title game, or we don’t win a literal OT coin flip in said title game?

Look at how often a candidate wins as the barometer, not championships.

Now, if we do find ourselves in a predicament where we keep getting there under him and losing in round 1, then we assess it then, but for now, give me the guy that manages to keep getting double digit win seasons.

 

[Ediddy7023]

Im hoping Mccarthy can be like Andy Reid.
Get to his final landing spot. Build the team and qb he wants and creates a dynasty. However I would not mind a younger guy. Regardless im just happy to see change

 

[No2DC]

Im hoping Mccarthy can be like Andy Reid.
Get to his final landing spot. Build the team and qb he wants and creates a dynasty. However I would not mind a younger guy. Regardless im just happy to see change

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

 

[Saints 318]

No Saints fan has been able to explain the difference between Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy and every Saints fan would have wanted Payton back. They have the same career arc lol. I just don't get it.

I don't get what's so bad about McCarthy when he's coming off a solid run with a Cowboys team that won't ever win anything until Jerry

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

 

[St. Widge]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

What do you think that means? It's a completely irrelevant fact. Would you not have hired Payton if you were Denver?

At some point no QB had won a Super Bowl on two different teams, no team had won a Super Bowl as a Wild Card, nobody had landed on the moon, climbed Mount Everest, etc. But they all got done at some point.

 

[St. Widge]

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

And we were wrong about Payton who has shown that he can change his offense to fit the QB in Denver.

 

[St. Geezy]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

This is kind of an unfair statement to try to pass off as an indictment on someone.

Overall, relatively speaking, hardly ANY head coaches win Super Bowls. To single out a certain subset of coaches to say they haven’t won one to damn that entire group doesn’t seem right.

Winning Super Bowls is extremely hard, because it isn’t just about how great you are, and too many people have lost sight of that for whatever reason.

 

[DavidM]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

Okay. Take a look at the 2022 coaching class, since that involves the Saints, and for some added perspective. 6 of the 10 coaches have been fired. Daboll is arguably on the hotseat. O'Connell, Bowles, and McDaniel are having some success and could be setting up for long tenures with their respective teams. I believe out of the 10 coaches, they combine for 3 wins in the postseason so far (1 each; Bowles, Daboll, and Pederson).

You seem to be seriously dismissing just how hard it is for coaches to succeed in the NFL.

 

[MikeyF]

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

Same words out of Philly when they forced Andy Reid out...

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[texasjefe]

No, he's an active coach who has more skins on the wall than any other candidate, and its not close.

Yes, pork skins.

Good job though auditioning as Mike's publicist.

Mike's a meh retread coach that Mickey would be rescuing. Mickey's claim to fame is the cojones he had bringing in Payton. Is Mickey willing to take a hiring risk where's he accountable?

Not if he hires old Couch Potato Daddy. With Dennis being kicked off the ship by the owner, Mickey needs a new bud.