Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (62 Viewers)

[SpeckKillerII]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

 

[St. Widge]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

You posted this yesterday and it's a false narrative because Haslett was the HC who decided who would start, not McCarthy.

Beyond that, it was almost 20 years ago and since then McCarthy has won a Super Bowl, been in 4 NFC Championship Games, been in the playoffs 12 of 18 years, and won 174 NFL games (.608 win percentage).

So, yes, I recall what went on with Brooks and Delhomme, but it wasn't McCarthy’s decision and even if it was, it's irrelevant given the things that have happened in the last 20 or so years.

Oh, and when he was healthy, Brooks was a better QB than Delhomme. But, Delhomme should have started those last 3 games because Brooks was not healthy and could not play to his usual level.

 

[reason2believe]

The last time we jumped on a good ole boy late fire from Dallas it was a disaster wish DC Ryan. No thank you on a knee jerk hire.

 

[St. Widge]

The last time we jumped on a good ole boy late fire from Dallas it was a disaster wish DC Ryan. No thank you on a knee jerk hire.

Do you remember the other coaching hire we made from Dallas?

And it makes no difference who prior hires worked for or how they worked out. They have no influence on how this decision would work out.

 

[Rouxble]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

 

[bigdaddysaints]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

i don't consider 20 years ago short memory. And do you specifically remember it being McCarthy who was the one who wouldn't switch, or was it Haslett?

Do you have a short memory that while in New York, Payton had his play calling duties taken away from him becuase of poor offensive performances, only for the team to instantly improve and made the playoffs? (thats not opinion, thats his own words).

i mean, if you want to split hairs.....

 

[Covington Saint]

I don't mind people preferring a different candidate.

But don't give lazy arguments of mccarthy won't have success. Or a retread line like that means anything then offer a kingsburry suggestion. Don't sit here and pretend like candidate x will be a better hire than mccarthy like you know the future.

I rather someone just say watching joe brady or kellen moore try to succeed in this league will be more fun for me than watching McCarthy coach whom i've watched coach for 18 years already.

 

[44slayer]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

He isnt my first choice, but this is a bit of a bad take. McCarthy made Aaron Brooks a lot of money and was part of the 1st playoff win in franchise history. 2nd, he wasnt the HC. Haslett had the call on who started. 3rd, he did go on to win a SB. And lastly, because he can match SB wins with Loomis, this would be MUCH more like the Payton/Loomis cooperation than Allen/Loomis ever was. McCarthy is going to do things his way or no way, he has the clout to pull it off.

Again, I prefer Brady or Johnson type. Young, hungry with ideas that can lead a rebuild. Then McCarthy. Then Glenn.

My only problem with McCarthy is if he is at the point in his career where he has the energy and patience to slog through a rebuild. My guess is he probably wants something more plug and play than this job. Flip side, maybe if he has enough control over the rebuild, he may be interested in building his team from the ground up. Either way it would be far from the worst move we could make.

 

[Rouxble]

My only question would be can he bring his offenses scheme up to the 21st century everybody that talk about the Dallas offense this season was that it was stale and outdated. The same words I heard on this forum in Payton’s last years and with Pete

In that antiquated offense from 2020-2024, Prescott averaged 270 yards, 2 TD's, and 0.8 INT's per start. That equates to 4,590 yards, 34 TD's, and 14 INT's in a 17-game season.

Of course, the offense took a step back this year with Jones doing practically nothing to improve the offensive talent this year, and with Prescott missing nine games.

 

[St. Geezy]

In that antiquated offense from 2020-2024, Prescott averaged 270 yards, 2 TD's, and 0.8 INT's per start. That equates to 4,590 yards, 34 TD's, and 14 INT's in a 17-game season.

Of course, the offense took a step back this year with Jones doing practically nothing to improve the offensive talent this year, and with Prescott missing nine games.

To add to this, Dallas had the #1 offense in the league in 2021, #10 in 2022, and #5 in 2023.

The only years where they fell outside of that were 2020 and 2024, when his starting QB missed most of the season.

 

[St. Widge]

In that antiquated offense from 2020-2024, Prescott averaged 270 yards, 2 TD's, and 0.8 INT's per start. That equates to 4,590 yards, 34 TD's, and 14 INT's in a 17-game season.

Of course, the offense took a step back this year with Jones doing practically nothing to improve the offensive talent this year, and with Prescott missing nine games.

Didn't they also start 3 rookies on the OL?

 

[St. Geezy]

Ya’ll better put some respeck on it!

 

[BreesusSaves]

To add to this, Dallas had the #1 offense in the league in 2021, #10 in 2022, and #5 in 2023.

The only years where they fell outside of that were 2020 and 2024, when his starting QB missed most of the season.

In scoring they ranked 1st in 2023, 4th in 2022, and 1st in 2021.

 

[St. Geezy]

In scoring they ranked 1st in 2023, 4th in 2022, and 1st in 2021.

 

[Dastheat_9]

The best way to get out of salary cap hell is for Carr to stay on one more season, no extensions or anything and cut him after next season. Cutting him now makes very little difference.

And sure, Carr has his flaws, but he's the best option we have unless Rattler makes a huge improvement this offseason.

McCarthy isn't bringing Rush here. Certainly not for peanuts. And how are you gonna pay him? You aren't gonna have the cap space to sign him if you cut Carr.

Well you can designate him as a June 1 cut. If you keep him. You know you are on the hook for 40 Million Dollars next year. If you cut him this year. You save 5 million off the cap, and you owe him nothing. You probably trade Tyrann and push that money down the road, The same with Taysom. Unless he agrees to a paycut. The same for Cam. Then you cut Cedrick Wilson, and Jamal Williams. You are under. You are going to suck this year. Draft young talent. Let your Coach pick his QB. Get a high draft pick, and draft Arch next year. Please do not tell me that you think we should pay Derek Carr 70 million Dollars for two years? That is what is sounds like you are suggesting.