Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (58 Viewers)

[St.Dan]

Some interesting comments from McCarthy when he took play calling over after the team parted ways with Kellen Moore:


I’ll take maximizing wins over trying to maximize offensive points.

That's quite the powerful quote, to be sure. As another poster pointed out, he no doubt saw what the Saints were capable of pre-injury wave this season. But he'd have to be the one calling the shots completely in free agency and the draft for THIS roster to be competitive in the short term.

 

[DaveXA]

Yeah, outside of Vrabel (now off the market) Mike is/was the most safe HC candidate on the market the minute Jerry let him walk... I fully expect our FO to go all out to get him... and if I were to place a bet.... It would be that he's our next head coach by wide odds margin.

I am kind of "Meh" on MM... I think he can make us competitive in the short term... I think he can figure out our QB room now - and down the road...

I am not sure he can be the long term future given how old he is and where he has already been... and I think if/when we hire him, we'll be looking for a new HC within 5 years... maybe sooner.

So there are reasons to like the hire, and reasons not to....

If you like high scoring offenses, he's your man.

 

[St. Widge]

Don’t like it. Don’t care what his regular season record is.

Can I interest you in enough playoff wins to win a Super Bowl and get to 4 NFC Championship games?

 

[SweetT]

They will? Didn’t Loomis say that he expects the hiring to be a long, thorough process?

Loomis also said that we had the next Chuck Knoll.
Just be aware when someone drops on your forehead and tells you it’s fudge

 

[SystemShock]

Can I interest you in enough playoff wins to win a Super Bowl and get to 4 NFC Championship games?

That was with the Packers, no?
And I'll reiterate, no HC has won SBs with 2 different teams.

 

[St. Widge]

That was with the Packers, no?
And I'll reiterate, no HC has won SBs with 2 different teams.

Yes, but he has still won a lot of playoff games (more than all but a few currently active coaches and more than Payton) and I'll reiterate that it doesn't matter if no HC has won SBs with two different teams. Those things are true until they are not and it was also true that no QB has won the SB with two different teams but now both Manning and Brady have done it. The list of things that had not been done and the list of things said to be impossible that happen all the time now is incredibly long.

Any how many playoff games have any of the remaining HC candidates won?

Finally, I'll ask you, if you were Denver, would you have not hired Sean Payton?

 

[BBarnes]

COMON CHICAGO! Do us a favor the same way Cleveland did with Watson!

So a coach that has been every bit as successful as Sean Payton is equivalent to Watson? Well, that’s interesting.

 

[Covington Saint]

if we pass on mccarthy, i'm going to load up on the kafka train just for the melt enjoyment.

 

[DaveXA]

That was with the Packers, no?
And I'll reiterate, no HC has won SBs with 2 different teams.

Why is that relevant? The question is can this guy coach? Can he run offenses that are consistently in the top 10 in the league? Is he a proven winner? He checks all of the boxes and then some.

He's still 2nd or 3rd on my list, but strictly based on credentials, McCarthy has them all beat, and it's not close.

That said, I'd be pretty happy with any of McCarthy, Brady and Glenn. Those are my top three and not necessarily in that order.

 

[DaveXA]

So a coach that has been every bit as successful as Sean Payton is equivalent to Watson? Well, that’s interesting.

Yeah, I mean, it's almost as bad as comparing him to Carr, lol.

 

[BBarnes]

Reid didn't win a ring in Philly, and no other Superbowl coach has gone somewhere else and won one.

I promise I do not mean any disrespect. However, could you imagine a GM ever even considering this in the slightest when discussing a possible candidate for their head coaching position? We both know the answer to that question is absolutely no, it would never be brought up. It’s hard as heck to even get to the Super Bowl much less winning. Only seven coaches in history have led multiple teams to the Super Bowl with different organizations. However, the last thing the Saints need to be worried about right now is a Super Bowl because they have an entire roster that needs to be rebuilt from the floor up. The guy that can best do that needs the job, regardless who it is.

 

[AARPSaint]

They will? Didn’t Loomis say that he expects the hiring to be a long, thorough process?

Yes, before McCarthy became available. No doubt Loomis was aware that McCarthy might be a possibility, but it wasn’t definite when he made the comment.

 

[BBarnes]

What a short memory some of you have. Do y’all not remember when he was our OC in the Haslett regime? If so you remember the complete collapse of Aaron Brooks and the year that McCarthy refused to bench Brooks when all we needed was to win 1 game of our final 3 but McCarthy and his arrogance would not put Jake Delhomme in or start any of those games. When we got to the final game of the season it was the last chance and he still would not start or put Delhomme in the game. Before anybody says “well obviously he wasn’t ready” the very next year Delhomme takes Carolina to the Superbowl!! You really want someone who made these kind of decision mistakes to be our HC? No way!

Tell us you have no idea or no true recollection of what actually happened

 

[St. Widge]

if we pass on mccarthy, i'm going to load up on the kafka train just for the melt enjoyment.

I think you would get better results with Nagy as bait.

 

[Saint Spud]

I’d be fine with it.

Unless we are going to pull one of the big names like Ben Johnson, I’d be happy with someone who will bring stability.

I’m not convinced he’s Andy Reid. But I also think he’s shown (like Reid) that he can establish a floor and win big with a great QB.