Saints expected to be very interested in former Packers/Cowboys HC Mike McCarthy [McCarthy will interview early next week] (59 Viewers)

[St.Dan]

We as in those who said that Payton's system was too old and antiquated for him to be succesful. I wasn't accusing you are anyone else specifically of having that opinion, but some did have it and they were wrong. A lot of it was probably just Ex-girlfriend syndrome where you hope your Ex-girlfriend isn't happy and successful with her new man.

And full confession, I wasn't sure that he was willing to change his offense when he didn't do it for Hill and Winston. And, I will say that he did not really change the system enough here after Brees retired for mere mortal QBs to run it properly. I think the year off with time to look at his system and adjust it to young QBs or just QBs that were not HoF QBs really helped him once he got to Denver. Over the years it was built around what Brees could do and not many can do those things. He has clearly changed some of those things and added somethings to help Nix have success.

But I never really doubted that he would end up being a good HC in Denver.

I'll always be in the camp that believes he left because he simply didn't want to coach anymore without an elite QB. Will Nix continue to develop? Time will tell.

 

[Dastheat_9]

Geniunely asking, why do people want Flores after the high profile debacle with Tua...which sort of corroborated the reports that he had a general lack of ability building relationships with....just about anyone from the practice squad to ownership in Miami?

I get he seemed like he mightve regretted some of it, either geniunely or at the direction of his agent I dont know. But this is going to be a pressure cooker here for a year or two trying to resurrect this roster. It seems like taking a chance on a guy like him is far riskier than Glenn.

He was hard nosed. His Defense is more acclimated to the NFL and running Qb's. I didn't think there was much there except the fact he didn't like Tua as a QB coming out. Tua didnt like his hard nosed style. He eventually leaned into Tua. He became a winning Coach. Miami fired him because of Tua feelings. He wanted to win. He didnt coddle players. I like those coaches. I am 45. I am kind of drawn to Bill Parcells, Bill Cowher, Bilicheck Coaches.
I understand the Offensive young minds are amazing. Kevin O Conell has got to thank Flores for that 14 win season. Mc Vay is the man. McDonald has not done much in Miami. Klint Kubiac second half offense was atrocious, Shane Stichen, who I respect as a Coach has really been disappointing. I see the success and demand of Demeco Ryans.
I am not a fan of Aaron Glenn for the same reason I didnt like Dennis Allen later on. Too much man coverage. Your back is to running QB's. Your blitzing scheme was atrocious. I got sick of pass interference penalties down the field due to Corners on a island. This is the same tendancy of Glenn.

 

[HouseCall]

Read his next tweet.

New Orleans will indeed have the hiring edge, because they will move quicker in this process.

They will? Didn’t Loomis say that he expects the hiring to be a long, thorough process?

 

[HouseCall]

I'll always be in the camp that believes he left because he simply didn't want to coach anymore without an elite QB. Will Nix continue to develop? Time will tell.

I think there’s definitely something to that, but I also think one of his best jobs as HC was 2021 when he clawed out 9 wins with a team that had no real QB and putrid receivers.

I think Payton got too comfortable with the front office in New Orleans. I think comfort is kryptonite for competitive people.

 

[sfidc3]

What made Duece Duece was his ability to run and receive, he was a bigger Marshall Faulk coming out of Ole Miss in my opinion.

Agreed, I feel had he started his career with CSP, it would've gone a lot differently.....he was uber talented.....

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

They will? Didn’t Loomis say that he expects the hiring to be a long, thorough process?

I doubt it'll be faster than any other team since we have Glenn high on our list. It could take awhile before we can bring him in for an in person interview since they have a good shot at getting to the conference championship game.

 

[St. Geezy]

I was going to say something similar. I like McCarthy, but he needs god coordinators to mke itwork.

Oh the humanity!

 

[Pocket Hercules]

The only reason the Cowboys won that many games under McCarthy is because of Dan Quinn and his defense. The offense has been terrible outside of a few games where they beat up on sub .500 teams. That’s supposed to be McCarthy’s calling card. That’s a red flag IMO.

You don't post three straight top-5 scoring seasons (two of which they ranked #1) simply beating up on bad opponents.

 

[MikeyF]

New Orleans Saints: Mike McCarthy predicted to be named team’s next head coach | Sporting News

The New Orleans Saints have a coaching vacancy and now that the Cowboys have moved on from Mike McCarthy, the former Dallas coach his the frontrunner.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[Rouxble]

Some interesting comments from McCarthy when he took play calling over after the team parted ways with Kellen Moore:

I’ve been where Kellen’s been,” McCarthy said, per Michael Gehlken of the Dallas Morning News. “Kellen wants to light the scoreboard up, but I want him to run the damn ball so I can rest my defense. I think when you’re a coordinator, you know but you’re in charge of the offense. Being a head coach and being a play-caller, you’re a little more in tune with (everything).
“I don’t desire to be the No. 1 offense in the league. I want to be the No. 1 team in the league with the number of wins and a championship. And if we’ve got to give up some production and take care of the ball a little better to get that, then that’s what we’ll do because we have a really good defense.

I’ll take maximizing wins over trying to maximize offensive points.

 

[44slayer]

He was hard nosed. His Defense is more acclimated to the NFL and running Qb's. I didn't think there was much there except the fact he didn't like Tua as a QB coming out. Tua didnt like his hard nosed style. He eventually leaned into Tua. He became a winning Coach. Miami fired him because of Tua feelings. He wanted to win. He didnt coddle players. I like those coaches. I am 45. I am kind of drawn to Bill Parcells, Bill Cowher, Bilicheck Coaches.
I understand the Offensive young minds are amazing. Kevin O Conell has got to thank Flores for that 14 win season. Mc Vay is the man. McDonald has not done much in Miami. Klint Kubiac second half offense was atrocious, Shane Stichen, who I respect as a Coach has really been disappointing. I see the success and demand of Demeco Ryans.
I am not a fan of Aaron Glenn for the same reason I didnt like Dennis Allen later on. Too much man coverage. Your back is to running QB's. Your blitzing scheme was atrocious. I got sick of pass interference penalties down the field due to Corners on a island. This is the same tendancy of Glenn.

Fair enough, but I do think the situation in Miami was quite a bit more than him not liking Tua coming out. Quite a bit.

 

[BreesusSaves]

Some interesting comments from McCarthy when he took play calling over after the team parted ways with Kellen Moore:


I’ll take maximizing wins over trying to maximize offensive points.

McCarthy also wanted Dallas to sign Derrick Henry but Jones told him no. If there is one thing we know about Loomis, if his HC said "I want Derrick Henry", the Saints are for damn sure signing Derrick Henry.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Perhaps someone has already mentioned it, but you'd have to believe that the arse-whipping that we put on the 'pokes in week two has to resonate a bit with McCarthy. He saw what our roster could do when our starters were healthy. He might not feel that the cupboard is as barren as others do. Depth is obviously a big concern, but strategic 2nd/3rd wave FA signings and a good draft can alleviate a lot of that, and you'd have to believe that the entire organization is committed to getting to the bottom of our abnormal injury issues based upon the volume of specific comments on that issue in recent weeks.

 

[Infoman]

Yeah, outside of Vrabel (now off the market) Mike is/was the most safe HC candidate on the market the minute Jerry let him walk... I fully expect our FO to go all out to get him... and if I were to place a bet.... It would be that he's our next head coach by wide odds margin.

I am kind of "Meh" on MM... I think he can make us competitive in the short term... I think he can figure out our QB room now - and down the road...

I am not sure he can be the long term future given how old he is and where he has already been... and I think if/when we hire him, we'll be looking for a new HC within 5 years... maybe sooner.

So there are reasons to like the hire, and reasons not to....

 

[BoNcHiE]

Don’t like it. Don’t care what his regular season record is.