Saints sign WR Brandin Cooks to a 2-year, $13 million deal (64 Viewers)

[Snakehead]

Plus MVS has a history of drops and had some in the last few games

Yeah, he reverted back to the MVS known well around the NFL.

 

[SammyIsGod]

Welcome back, Cooksie!

 

[StudioSaint]

It will definitely be interesting to see what kind of offense he implements. I'm not sure that he has ever really implemented an entire offense that is his own. In Dallas he took over under Garrett who was an OC/QB, he only had one year with the Chargers, and a lot of what Philly did was still Sirianni and their power run game.

It's possible that one year with the Chargers was the closest we have seen to what he wants to do and that was more of a passing attack. But, that could have been based on the personnel he had.

Based on the interviews that he gave Super Bowl week, it sounds like he likes to throw the ball (as a former QB), but he will want an effective run game to keep teams honest. And, it sounds like his offense will use West Coast terminology, and maybe have a West Coast base with lots of motion added, but draw from lots of different offenses to suit personnel and stay unpredictable. It honestly sounds kind of like the things Sean Payton did/does, but it will be interesting to see.

I think it will involve quite a bit of using power running, play action deep shots, and players lining up all over the offensive alignment to keep the defense on a triceratops's horns of a dilemma.

 

[Taker597]

The team doesn't have the chips to "go all in" because of cap mgt. Can't afford a star, get 3 mid tier guy. Hope a rotation works or one breaks out. See Granderson/Young/Jordan or Harris/Abrams/Howden or Olave/Shaheed/Cooks. Reid fixes the safety rotation.

A 32 year old WR that only played 10 games due to an infection in his knee from a meniscus procedure avging career lows doesn't aspire confidence. Cooks was already losing his burst before then too.

 

[baarbogast]

The one thing I have noticed, no one has mentioned any guarantees. From my understanding, if he doesn’t make the team we owe him nothing.

 

[Rexman100]

The saving grace to me for this signing is maybe it’s CKMs decision because he liked what he saw with him at Dallas, and not Mickey Loomis trying to get the band back together.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Yeah, the man that traded a #1,2 and 3 for Steve Walsh , maybe the worst trade in Saints history

Clown him all you want, he did many more great things than bad. If you think that’s the worst trade in Saints history then lol to that too.

Anyhow, we’re all human. And none of us are perfect except for you. .

 

[DSnfla]

I was going to say that. Don’t be surprised if we see KM substituting these WRs to keep them injury free. Not all of them will be on the field at the same time for the majority of the plays. I’m also sure that he will get us another WR or two. Good bye Cedrick Wilson

I don't think so Wilson was quite productive under CKM in Dallas. He knows the system CKM will likely run and he's cheap and just took a bit of a pay cut

 

[texasjefe]

A 32 year old WR that only played 10 games due to an infection in his knee from a meniscus procedure avging career lows doesn't aspire confidence. Cooks was already losing his burst before then too.

He's played 16, 13, 16, and 10 games the last 4 seasons. Not ready to write him off as washed, but we'll get a clear read on that this season. He was a mess in Dallas last year, but that whole offense was a mess.

We'll see him at training camp. For $7M/year for 2 years, he's potentially an affordable upgrade in depth, over the $1M guys they've been signing. Surely, they would not have sprung for this guy without checking the tank. Surely?

He is who he he is. He has not thrived on winning the love of team or fanbases to stay anywhere too long.

If all he did is have nothing more than minor injuries, be an effective decoy out there, getting enough balls that he has to accounted for, than they may get their money's worth.

 

[DSnfla]

Clown him all you want, he did many more great things than bad. If you think that’s the worst trade in Saints history then lol to that too.

Anyhow, we’re all human. And none of us are perfect except for you. .

SMH also the same guy that drafted Shawn Knight @ #11. Go look at his drafts, he has 1 good one and a bunch of bad ones. The best thing Finks did was hire Mora. Ok, so what do you think is the worst trade in Saints history?

I would love to see the we're all human excuse used for Loomis, who had 10 times more success than Finks ever had

 

[texasjefe]

The one thing I have noticed, no one has mentioned any guarantees. From my understanding, if he doesn’t make the team we owe him nothing.

Seems unlikely. Whatever his salary is, that will be his dead cap also. I don't think he would sign without full guarantees because then he's not being paid $X as reported, he's being paid less than $X.

$7M dead cap is not nothing, but it's actually normal.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

SMH also the same guy that drafted Shawn Knight @ #11. Go look at his drafts, he has 1 good one and a bunch of bad ones. The best thing Finks did was hire Mora. Ok, so what do you think is the worst trade in Saints history?

I would love to see the we're all human excuse used for Loomis, who had 10 times more success than Finks ever had

I’d say the Ricky trade was the worst. Disagree on the Loomis assertion too, and that’s ok.

And not gonna bother to try and convince you of anything, you’re the most closed-minded poster on this site imo. And that’s all good, fan how ya wanna. I’m cool with you having different opinions than me about our favorite team.

A quick and easy look up for Finks tho, and I remember him fondly as a young Saints fan, seems his peers thought a lot of him too:

Jim Finks, a Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee, is renowned for transforming the New Orleans Saints into a winning team, including their first winning season in franchise history and multiple playoff appearances.

Here's a more detailed look at his accomplishments with the Saints:

• Turned around a struggling franchise:
  Finks, as the Saints' president and general manager, took over a team that had been a perennial loser and transformed it into a contender.
  
  
• First winning season:
  In just his second season at the helm, the Saints achieved their first winning season in their 19-year history, winning 12 games.
  
  
• Multiple playoff appearances:
  Under Finks, the Saints advanced to the playoffs four times from 1987 to 1992.
  
  
• NFC Western Division title:
  In 1991, the Saints won the NFC Western Division title, a significant achievement for the franchise.
  
  
• Recognized as an NFL Executive of the Year:
  Finks was named NFL Executive of the Year for the second time during his tenure with the Saints.
  
  
• Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame:
  Finks's contributions to the Saints, and his overall impact on the NFL, earned him a place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1995.
  
  
• Other Hall of Fame recognitions:
  He was also inducted into the Saints Hall of Fame in 1994 and the Greater New Orleans Sports Hall of Fame.

 

[SweetT]

I don't think so Wilson was quite productive under CKM in Dallas. He knows the system CKM will likely run and he's cheap and just took a bit of a pay cut

He should’ve gave up his entire salary

 

[SweetT]

I’d say the Ricky trade was the worst. Disagree on the Loomis assertion too, and that’s ok.

And not gonna bother to try and convince you of anything, you’re the most closed-minded poster on this site imo. And that’s all good, fan how ya wanna. I’m cool with you having different opinions than me about our favorite team.

A quick and easy look up for Finks tho, and I remember him fondly as a young Saints fan, seems his peers thought a lot of him too:

Jim Finks, a Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee, is renowned for transforming the New Orleans Saints into a winning team, including their first winning season in franchise history and multiple playoff appearances.

Here's a more detailed look at his accomplishments with the Saints:

• Turned around a struggling franchise:
  Finks, as the Saints' president and general manager, took over a team that had been a perennial loser and transformed it into a contender.
  
  
• First winning season:
  In just his second season at the helm, the Saints achieved their first winning season in their 19-year history, winning 12 games.
  
  
• Multiple playoff appearances:
  Under Finks, the Saints advanced to the playoffs four times from 1987 to 1992.
  
  
• NFC Western Division title:
  In 1991, the Saints won the NFC Western Division title, a significant achievement for the franchise.
  
  
• Recognized as an NFL Executive of the Year:
  Finks was named NFL Executive of the Year for the second time during his tenure with the Saints.
  
  
• Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame:
  Finks's contributions to the Saints, and his overall impact on the NFL, earned him a place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1995.
  
  
• Other Hall of Fame recognitions:
  He was also inducted into the Saints Hall of Fame in 1994 and the Greater New Orleans Sports Hall of Fame.

I still get confused about that Ricky trade. Like seriously, who does that, then openly says that they are going golfing?!?!

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

I still get confused about that Ricky trade. Like seriously, who does that, then openly says that they are going golfing?!?!

Right???

I like Ricky but anyone who doesn’t think that’s the worst trade in our history is full on delusional imo. All good tho. Life would be boring if we all agreed, all the time.