Saints sign WR James Washington to one year deal (released on August 15) (1 Viewer)

[purntcounterpurnt]

Tqs is almost assuredly gone

But he made that hype video…

 

[webster]

You are talking as if our depth is so proven! Lmao. Dude I want the Saints to kick butt and our offense to thrive too and for Juwan and James and Keidre and Shaeed to blossom but it's ok to admit you're bias lmao.

Go on NFL reddit or something and ask fans who aren't in a black and gold bubble to rank the best overall corps of pass catchers in the NFL

I agree, we do not have a stable of proven players at tightend or wide receiver. Outside of New Orleans no one would put our group of tightends or receivers in their top ten let alone number 1.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

He’s right. Have you seen the rest of the Dolphins, Bengals and Eagles’ WRs at WR3-WR5?

So you would take (Bengals) Tyler Boyd, Stan Morgan, Trent Taylor, (Dolphins) Chosen Anderson, Berrios, Cedrick Wilson, (Eagles) Quez Watkins, Zaccheaus, Tyler Cleveland,
over Michael Thomas, Washington, Edwards and Perry?

That’s some of what he meant by stable of pass catchers. The entire group.

How can you really count Washington, Edwards and Perry at all yet? And MT is no given base on the last 3 years.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

How can you really count Washington, Edwards and Perry at all yet? And MT is no given base on the last 3 years.

Based on talent and experience. The same can be said of how could receivers in those other teams’ WR groups be counted during the offseason while some are returning from injury and battling with incoming players. Previous production and talent is all to go off of.

It’s a given that MT may not play a whole year which is why I firmly consider him our WR3 now. It becomes a lot of over-hypotheticals and second guessing for argument while it’s apparent which Overall groups are better on pure talent and production

 

[Saint Spud]

There’s a reason you heard Dennis say yesterday MT had hardware removed from his foot a week ago and this happens today. I’m not the only one that doesn’t expect him to take a snap next year. You don’t bring in Edward’s, Washington and move up to draft a WR and add a priority free agent and essentially only lose Jarvis from the lineup. The restructuring was more about cap space than it was with the anticipation of him actually playing this year.

They’re not even close to similar players. Thomas is 6-3, Washington is 5-11.

This has nothing to do with MT. It’s a cheap flier on a player who has struggled with injuries.

 

[Saint Spud]

Hubris was Sean's greatest flaw. He knew that Drew could get the job done with just about anyone and never really gave him top-flight weapons till MT.

Agreed. Same problem Belichick had with Brady. And then Brady got sick of it.

 

[la. champ1]

There was a time when I was very optimistic about his career. I thought he just needed a chance. He’s yet to blossom, but he has displayed some impressive skills at times. Hoping for the best. Sounds like a low risk, high reward kind of signing. I’m all for bringing competition to the WR room.

Agree . Pitt hasn’t had very good QB play last few years and he was injured last year so we have yet to see what he can do with good to great QB.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

Based on talent and experience. The same can be said of how could receivers in those other teams’ WR groups be counted during the offseason while some are returning from injury and battling with incoming players. Previous production and talent is all to go off of.

It’s a given that MT may not play a whole year which is why I firmly consider him our WR3 now. It becomes a lot of over-hypotheticals and second guessing for argument while it’s apparent which Overall groups are better on pure talent and production

Perry is a 6th rounder who has not touched an NFL field. MT coming off of 3 years of injury and Washington is a street FA coming off of injury and never having a season with more than 44 catches. Edwards is coming off of a year with 3 catches. They all have potential to have good years, but I think you are looking through black and gold colored glasses to rank so many unknowns so highly. Hope you are right.

 

[rlemieux]

They’re not even close to similar players. Thomas is 6-3, Washington is 5-11.

This has nothing to do with MT. It’s a cheap flier on a player who has struggled with injuries.

Edward’s is 6’3, Perry is 6’4, Davis is 6’4. But also, you don’t have to be the same height to fill a similar role. It’s a combination of all of them to a point regardless.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Perry is a 6th rounder who has not touched an NFL field. MT coming off of 3 years of injury and Washington is a street FA coming off of injury and never having a season with more than 44 catches. Edwards is coming off of a year with 3 catches. They all have potential to have good years, but I think you are looking through black and gold colored glasses to rank so many unknowns so highly. Hope you are right.

There’s no black and gold glasses when just comparing who are better WRs between specific teams, not all teams. An earlier post said we have the best. A reply to that, which began this discussion, singled out certain teams and I pointed out they’re better than those teams’ WR3-WR6. It wasn’t I who said The best. If we broke down the WR3-WR6 of the Dolphins, Bengals and Eagles, we’ll come up with those same flaws and uncertainties with lesser talents/less productive players.

 

[Saintsphere]

I agree, we do not have a stable of proven players at tightend or wide receiver. Outside of New Orleans no one would put our group of tightends or receivers in their top ten let alone number 1.

@B_doggman47 I promise you dude, I PROMISE it's ok if some people don't think the Saints skill players are God's gift to skill players. Giving a Godell clown to that post is so stupid lol. But I guess peak fan optimism means no one is allowed to not heap the praises of our team.

 

[Saint Spud]

Edward’s is 6’3, Perry is 6’4, Davis is 6’4. But also, you don’t have to be the same height to fill a similar role. It’s a combination of all of them to a point regardless.

You said the signing of Washington wasn’t a coincidence relative to what DA said about MT.

They don’t play the same position in our offense. It is the definition of a coincidence.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

It’s really normal for 3rd-6th WRs to have rookie/injury uncertainties with a lot of potential. That’s apart of why they’re 3rd-6th WRs to begin with. Every team’s WR3-WR6 will have uncertainties to point out.

I really would like to know if Boyd/Stan Morgan/Trent Taylor, Anderson/Berrios/Wilson, and Q. Watkins/Zaccheaus/T. Cleveland are being chosen over Michael Thomas and any two of Edwards/Washington/Perry as a backend collective. If it can’t be said that the others are better, then it’s been arguing just to be arguing for some just to oppose, based on finding uncertainty in our WRs and not based on who they’re being compared with at all.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Dolphins, Bengals and Eagles literally have 4th-6th WRs who were less productive than Washington, Edwards, and, obviously, Michael Thomas over the last 2-3 seasons or their entire careers. They have 4th-6th receivers who barely produce last year and year before but firmly counted in their main 5 or 6. Yet, the uncertainties in our backend WRs is pointed out. Terms like “black & gold glasses ” and “overly optimistic “ are thrown for saying the Saints’ Stable (overall collective) is clearly better than a lot of teams’ unproductive backend WR3-WR6s.

A.T. Perry is obviously a later round rookie that fell. But who’s taking Trent Taylor, Ced Wilson, Tyrie Cleveland, and Stanley Morgan over Perry and his outlook for this season or next 2 years? Who would take those WRs over TQS? Thats been the point

 

[Cougar 2]

Based on talent and experience. The same can be said of how could receivers in those other teams’ WR groups be counted during the offseason while some are returning from injury and battling with incoming players. Previous production and talent is all to go off of.

It’s a given that MT may not play a whole year which is why I firmly consider him our WR3 now. It becomes a lot of over-hypotheticals and second guessing for argument while it’s apparent which Overall groups are better on pure talent and production

I know it’s early, but like many I have us goin 10-7 this year. N I did NOT include MT in my prediction.

Reasoning:

1) Last year, the trio of CO ( rook #1 pick) Sheed ( rook UDFA) n Juwan ( UDFA WR, in his 2nd yr as converted TE ) combined for over 2000 yds n bout 10-12 TDs, mostly with Andy Dalton at QB. Their continued development n additions at WR n TE ( Foster Moreau?) will hopefully give us more depth n competition at those positions.

2) Derek Carr is BETTER than Andy Dalton!

Any questions?

3) An improved run game! It’s been a loong time but we FINALLY got a big physical back in Jamaal who’s coming off his best season as a Pro!

But for all his success, if there’s ONE stat Williams put up last year that I HOPE he can duplicate the MOST as a Saint, n for the success of the entire TEAM this season is… First Downs!!!

Last year, Jamaal ran for 65 of em! That’s nearly four first downs a game! Now, he probably got many/most of em in short yardage situations. But ALL of his 17 TDs came in da red zone too! So opposing defenses KNEW he was coming, but he STILL got da job done!

I know it’s a “passing league”! But I’m STILL old school n STILL some smash mouth football!!!