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And Matthew 7:1-3 cautions on exactly where that leads.

Still, it doesn't say "don't judge"... and who are you going to roll with? John, or Matthew?

Besides, isn't it that, whether you judge or not, righteously or otherwise, you will be judged by God anyway?
 
Still, it doesn't say "don't judge"... and who are you going to roll with? John, or Matthew?

Besides, isn't it that, whether you judge or not, righteously or otherwise, you will be judged by God anyway?
Whatever, not going to argue with you since it is silly.

I spent way too many years listening to sermons and understanding the right thing to do to sit and argue semantics with folks who want to ignore the spirit of the bible so they can weaponize it's phrasing.

Every single reasonable person knows what they are supposed to do and it aint what I've found from main stream orthodox organizations post Jesus. Funny how it's en vogue to distrust media, but you can't begin to question theology presented by man as God's will. That's not healthy.
 
Devil's Advocate but why do we have the Star Spangled Banner Ceremony before every sporting event? The Support for the Military is more in line with that ceremony than any other celebrated month and I am including Breast Cancer, Pride, Black History, and any other "Look how corporate responsible we are" celebrations.
I don't see that as a military ceremony. The anthem and banner (in theory) should unite all people under it. The ceremony seems started as a rallying cry in the early 1940s, when fear/expectation about entering the war was high. I think it served more as a cry for unity and doing your part for the war effort at home, not celebrating the military.
 
Whatever, not going to argue with you since it is silly.

I spent way too many years listening to sermons and understanding the right thing to do to sit and argue semantics with folks who want to ignore the spirit of the bible so they can weaponize it's phrasing.

Every single reasonable person knows what they are supposed to do and it aint what I've found from main stream orthodox organizations post Jesus. Funny how it's en vogue to distrust media, but you can't begin to question theology presented by man as God's will. That's not healthy.

Ok, but I am not arguing semantics; I am not "weaponizing" anything. I am just pointing out what the book literally says. And it isn't Shakespeare or a Bob Dylan song...it's very much straight forward.

I don't ignore the spirit of the Bible. But the spirit of the Bible has a different meaning to me that it does to you.

Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. The Westboro church, they think they are reasonable. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei thinks he's reasonable, and so do his followers. Shri Shri Ravi Shankar thinks he's reasonable, and so do his followers.

You say that one can't begin to question theology presented by man as God's will. If I ask you, who presented God's will to you in the first place? Well, it was man. Men wrote the texts that make the Bible, and men taught it to you.
 
... so, after 25 pages of discussion, it occurred to me that I didn't read the article linked in the OP. So, I went and read it... and read a couple others.

First, the article is based on a tweet posted by Libs of TikTok. Enough said. :hihi:

Now, this is the off season, OTA's just finished... If I read the other articles correctly, what has happened is that certain teams have not released any statements in support of Pride Month (which apparently that's what they usually do). Obviously that doesn't mean they refused to put out any statement, just that they have not done it. That doesn't mean that they'll do it later either There was mention of the Packers being on the list, and how they put out the statement a couple of days later.

So... much ado about nothing. :hihi:
 
It never ceases to amaze me how many straw men people will build, how much fake outrage and caring they will express, or how much bullshirt they will make up to defend an indefensible position. Some people have turned gaslighting into an art form.
You’re talking about BOTH sides in this culture war, correct?
 
I guess reading comp wasn't your thing!
Not sure i really understand. So i guess you're right.

You said: "I'm so done with pride for this pride for that. I find it very weird. I say pick a month and call it Pride Month. whatever you are proud of and want to celebrate it happens that month. go be proud of who you are and what you've accomplished, Have fun be happy."

My point was, I don't get why you're tired of it or even care. Who cares if someone wants to celebrate something one month and then something different another month?

It sounded like you were arguing that only one month should be devoted to everyone and everyone should be quiet the other 11 months. Obviously, i may have low reading comp skills, so i may have misunderstood you.
 
You’re talking about BOTH sides in this culture war, correct?

What culture war? There is no culture war. That entire concept is made up by the media and it's not a media that is on "both sides". It's a media that very much so pushed "one side" in order to make money off of suckers. Which of course assumes that there are only two sides to anything. And, in regard to topics like this, there are many more sides than two. "They" want you to think that there are only two sides to any issue because that's how "they" keep power.
 
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I should also say, as an undercurrent, if you're sick of hearing about pride, or black history month, or anything else similar. Deep down, i think that's because you have a problem with that way of life or those type of people. otherwise, you wouldn't care (see the military). I'm sure a lot of people will push back on this, but the "i'm okay with it, i just don't want to hear about it crowd" really aren't okay with it. Just my opinion.
 
only by the left wing who wanted to make it sound like a bigoted, hateful bill.
Weird how you cut the part of that post off where I said that's how it was presented by the bill's author.

and the next post that says :

While this bill was being debated on the Senate Floor, State Sen. Beth Mizell said: "Parents can’t trust LGBTQ+ school employees unless they’re banned from speaking about their personal lives."


The left didn't have to try hard to make it sound like a bigoted hateful bill because it IS a bigoted hateful bill.
 
Does everyone love the military and support them 💯? I think it’s obvious that there are voices in this country that have a negative view of soldiers and the military in general. Same as police we see both in this thread. My brother is NOPD but the hate doesn’t upset me. There are always going to be people who don’t respect a group or organization. It’s human nature right or wrong.

I would think that you would understand that a parade or a month a day or a flag isn't going to make any group or organization more socially acceptable than it already is. And also I think we confuse acceptance and support. They are 2 different things. You can accept something all the time but you don’t have to support it.

Every group of people and organizations in this country has people who like or dislike it who accept and don’t accept and who support and don’t support them. This is never going to change and that’s ok because we have that right as a country.
And people also confuse lack of support for a celebration with lack of support for the group. For example, i ref HS and college football. When the pink october stuff hit its peak in the NFL, some HS refs wanted to start wearing pink whistles, flags, lanyards, etc. Of course anyone who was opposed to it because they didn’t have the money to spend on all the extra pink gear was seen as anti cancer survivor. Equally, there may be other reasons you feel it unnecessary to have gay parades and celebrations than just that you hate the LGBTQ+ community.
 
And people also confuse lack of support for a celebration with lack of support for the group. For example, i ref HS and college football. When the pink october stuff hit its peak in the NFL, some HS refs wanted to start wearing pink whistles, flags, lanyards, etc. Of course anyone who was opposed to it because they didn’t have the money to spend on all the extra pink gear was seen as anti cancer survivor. Equally, there may be other reasons you feel it unnecessary to have gay parades and celebrations than just that you hate the LGBTQ+ community.
not wanting to participate yourself (buying extra pink stuff) =/= not wanting the gays to have a pride parade.

This is non-analogous.
 
And people also confuse lack of support for a celebration with lack of support for the group. For example, i ref HS and college football. When the pink october stuff hit its peak in the NFL, some HS refs wanted to start wearing pink whistles, flags, lanyards, etc. Of course anyone who was opposed to it because they didn’t have the money to spend on all the extra pink gear was seen as anti cancer survivor. Equally, there may be other reasons you feel it unnecessary to have gay parades and celebrations than just that you hate the LGBTQ+ community.
Man, this post might have had some weight if you didn’t just completely misrepresent the don’t say gay bill
But here we are
 
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