So……Pride Month….. [CLOSED] (1 Viewer)

[ktulu909]

Love it. You posted images, they got reverse searched, showing that none of them were in an elementary school, so you think, "Ha, I'll post a video! They won't be able to identify the origins of videos!".

You wish.

0:00 Drag brunch in a restaurant. Not a kindergarten classroom.

0:09 Story telling at Barnstable and Bideford Libraries, in Devon, UK. Not a kindergarten classroom. We don't even call it kindergarten over here.

2:14 King County Library in Washington State. Not a kindergarten classroom.

2:18 Park Slope branch of Brooklyn Public Library again. It still isn't a kindergarten classroom.

2:30 El Museo del Bario in Harlem, but to be fair, it was part of an NYC school talent show, with the PTA president being the performer in question. The NYC Department of Education stated it was inappropriate and the school administration spoke with the parent (https://abc7ny.com/drag-nyc-schools-education-department-of/2062608/). Still not a kindergarten classroom, and still not something routinely happening, obviously.

There are literally zero examples of elementary school libraries in that video. Give that up already.

But the real question is why did you think there were? Why do a whole bunch of people think that, when it's clearly not actually a thing? And it's the same answer it always is; people get inflamed about it through inflammatory rhetoric, not the reality. But people voluntarily taking their own children to a reading event at a public library isn't really something you think you'd be that mad about, even if a person in drag is doing the reading, so there's a cognitive dissonance between the outrage people feel over it and the actual reality.

So to resolve that dissonance, people tend to go one of two ways; they decide they actually are mad about people taking their own kids to events, or, they assume the reality must match the outrage they feel.

That is, they think it must be happening in elementary school libraries, because otherwise they wouldn't be so mad about it. Then they insist publicly it is happening, and get frustrated when they're unable to show it, because it isn't.

The other way to resolve it is to recognise the reality and stop being so mad about it. But some people have trouble with that too, because their self-image is of someone who couldn't fall for inflammatory rhetoric and outright lies in the first place.

And meanwhile, the continuing desire of some to create that outrage and stoke hatred with inflammatory rhetoric and lies in the first place is why we still need Pride month.

What a post. Not all heros wear capes. I had planned to sit and dissect the video,and you beat me to it. Bravo.

Im a 47 year old straight male,who was raised by 2 moms in the 90s,where there was alot of hatred directed at my family,so I take this sheet seriously. If you dont care for pride,or drag or anything else ,thats fine. But what I wont tolerate is hate based on lies,hypocracy and misinformation.

So here we at post number 421 of this thread,and we have still yet to be provided with the videos that are all over the place of drag queens twerking in a kindergarten classroom. sheet,its almost as if they dont really exist.

 

[livefromDC]

What a post. Not all heros wear capes. I had planned to sit and dissect the video,and you beat me to it. Bravo.

Im a 47 year old straight male,who was raised by 2 moms in the 90s,where there was alot of hatred directed at my family,so I take this sheet seriously. If you dont care for pride,or drag or anything else ,thats fine. But what I wont tolerate is hate based on lies,hypocracy and misinformation.

So here we at post number 421 of this thread,and we have still yet to be provided with the videos that are all over the place of drag queens twerking in a kindergarten classroom. sheet,its almost as if they dont really exist.

I did find this video of teachers twerking on students in a school gymnasium.



She was doing ok, but I'm appalled by how bad he is at twerking. If drag queens can help, I'm all for bringing in drag queens to help teachers K through 12 fix this bad dancing.

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

I did find this video of teachers twerking on students in a school gymnasium.



She was doing ok, but I'm appalled by how bad he is at twerking. If drag queens can help, I'm all for bringing in drag queens to help teachers K through 12 fix this bad dancing.

i'm sure this video has garnered just as much outrage as the other videos we've been showed. i know i'm clutching my pearls

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

hypocracy

Hey no politics

But I think you may have stumbled on the best term for our current system of government

 

[St. Widge]

I know everyone here isn't from Louisiana but the amount of hand wringing about parades on a New Orleans Saints forum is ironic. Pride parade organizers probably come to Mardi Gras to study debauchery. I know the point you're making, Widge, but it's hilarious. I've seen Mardi Gras beads with every anatomically feasible body part that can be used for sexual gratification proudly displayed around some kids' neck over the years. We aren't the ones to throw stones.

In June, it's don't shove your sexuality down my throat. During Mardi Gras...


This could be anyone here, LOL.

Agreed. To add to that, I'd bet a lot of money there is more gratuitously explicit sexual content in Krewe du Vieux than in a decade of Pride Parades. There is an entire sub-krewe of Krewe du Vieux that is called Krew of Crude, that pretty much so every year makes a float with a giant penis of one form or another shooting out white substances or some other giant penis on the float. Not to mention all kinds of floats in all kinds of parades with women in various stages of undress.

Yet, for some reason that stuff if okay. And we all know why the Pride Parade isn't "okay". It's because it makes some people uncomfortable and homosexuality grosses them out so they don't think people should be allowed to do it when it suggests homosexual sex. That is unless it's two attractive women together and then we can all have a big laugh about it and enjoy it.

But, nobody is calling for Krewe du Vieux to be shutdown or complaining that it is being shoved down their throats. Because we all know what it is and we all know that you don't bring kids to it unless you are okay with them seeing some pretty outrageous things. But, for some reason, a different standard is applied to Pride Parades which don't come even close to how outrageous Krewe du Vieux is.

 

[Tapxe]

nobody is calling for Krewe du Vieux to be shutdown or complaining

I suspect the folks who want to take down Pride will necessarily have to come after MG. Their leaders have nothing but grievance policies to offer. Once the stage is set and there's not enough opposition, you can bet on it.

 

[Tapxe]

I suspect the folks who want to take down Pride will necessarily have to come after MG. Their leaders have nothing but grievance policies to offer. Once the stage is set and there's not enough opposition, you can bet on it.

Example

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994

The Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest and most politically powerful Protestant denomination, voted Wednesday to oppose in vitro fertilization.

The move may signal the beginning of a broad turn on the right against IVF, an issue that many evangelicals, anti-abortion advocates and other social conservatives see as the “pro-life” movement’s next frontier — one they hope will eventually lead to restrictions, or outright bans, on IVF at the state and federal levels.

 

[St. Widge]

I suspect the folks who want to take down Pride will necessarily have to come after MG. Their leaders have nothing but grievance policies to offer. Once the stage is set and there's not enough opposition, you can bet on it.

They might, but that's going to be a very hard sell in New Orleans from both a cultural and economic point of view.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

I suspect the folks who want to take down Pride will necessarily have to come after MG. Their leaders have nothing but grievance policies to offer. Once the stage is set and there's not enough opposition, you can bet on it.

Same people who stand in the middle of Bourbon St with a giant cross and a bullhorn - they are widely ignored by the crowd.

Not to say that MG is bulletproof - both ends of the political horseshoe have their own stupid agenda - remember the Tales of the Cocktail lady who had to resign because she rode in Zulu (blackface)? Those two ends could converge in a firestorm of stupid and cause some problems.

But I think Widge is correct - as long as locals have the final say, MG isn't going under any time soon.

 

[SaintRob]

Example

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994

Is this real life or the prequel to the Handmaid's Tale?

 

[Paul]

What a post. Not all heros wear capes. I had planned to sit and dissect the video,and you beat me to it. Bravo.

Im a 47 year old straight male,who was raised by 2 moms in the 90s,where there was alot of hatred directed at my family,so I take this sheet seriously. If you dont care for pride,or drag or anything else ,thats fine. But what I wont tolerate is hate based on lies,hypocracy and misinformation.

So here we at post number 421 of this thread,and we have still yet to be provided with the videos that are all over the place of drag queens twerking in a kindergarten classroom. sheet,its almost as if they dont really exist.

You forgot to include that your taste in music is awful.

Through all of this discussion, one thing that stands out to me more than anything else is that there are a lot of folks on this site that genuinely just care about people. That’s it and that’s what’s important.

 

[Brandon13]

Love it. You posted images, they got reverse searched, showing that none of them were in an elementary school, so you think, "Ha, I'll post a video! They won't be able to identify the origins of videos!".

You wish.

0:00 Drag brunch in a restaurant. Not a kindergarten classroom.

0:09 Story telling at Barnstable and Bideford Libraries, in Devon, UK. Not a kindergarten classroom. We don't even call it kindergarten over here.

2:14 King County Library in Washington State. Not a kindergarten classroom.

2:18 Park Slope branch of Brooklyn Public Library again. It still isn't a kindergarten classroom.

2:30 El Museo del Bario in Harlem, but to be fair, it was part of an NYC school talent show, with the PTA president being the performer in question. The NYC Department of Education stated it was inappropriate and the school administration spoke with the parent (https://abc7ny.com/drag-nyc-schools-education-department-of/2062608/). Still not a kindergarten classroom, and still not something routinely happening, obviously.

There are literally zero examples of elementary school libraries in that video. Give that up already.

But the real question is why did you think there were? Why do a whole bunch of people think that, when it's clearly not actually a thing? And it's the same answer it always is; people get inflamed about it through inflammatory rhetoric, not the reality. But people voluntarily taking their own children to a reading event at a public library isn't really something you think you'd be that mad about, even if a person in drag is doing the reading, so there's a cognitive dissonance between the outrage people feel over it and the actual reality.

So to resolve that dissonance, people tend to go one of two ways; they decide they actually are mad about people taking their own kids to events, or, they assume the reality must match the outrage they feel.

That is, they think it must be happening in elementary school libraries, because otherwise they wouldn't be so mad about it. Then they insist publicly it is happening, and get frustrated when they're unable to show it, because it isn't.

The other way to resolve it is to recognise the reality and stop being so mad about it. But some people have trouble with that too, because their self-image is of someone who couldn't fall for inflammatory rhetoric and outright lies in the first place.

And meanwhile, the continuing desire of some to create that outrage and stoke hatred with inflammatory rhetoric and lies in the first place is why we still need Pride month.

Well damn

 

[Tapxe]

They might, but that's going to be a very hard sell in New Orleans from both a cultural and economic point of view.

Which is why it won't be a choice but a demand placed on N.O. exactly like they are doing to Pride. If you don't stand up to them now, chances are you won't have enough folks to stand against them later.

 

[Tapxe]

All kinds of examples in elementary school libraries in this video.

The commentary by the two youtube content creators will probably make you upset, but there you go.

How is the goalpost going to be moved this time? They weren't fully naked when twerking?

You upset by this one too?

https://saintsreport.com/threads/the-gif-thread-my-guess-nsfw-at-some-point.162697/post-9571417

 

[St. Widge]

Which is why it won't be a choice but a demand placed on N.O. exactly like they are doing to Pride. If you don't stand up to them now, chances are you won't have enough folks to stand against them later.

I mean, you are preaching to the converted. I'm just saying that many in New Orleans that might not stand up for Pride Parades will most definitely stand up for things Mardi Gras related even if they don't fit into what might be their moral view of the world. Some of that is just due to the culture, but some of it is businesses who make most of their yearly profits during Mardi Gras. As a result, even things like the Bourbon Street Awards which are held past the Lavender Line are protected under the broader scope of protecting Mardi Gras.