Soooo when is it NOT Fire Season??? Franklin fire in Malibu CA (2 Viewers)

[Madmarsha]

I think there is widespread deficiency in the quality and capacity of infrastructure systems in the US - due to lack of public investment and long-term life-cycle replacement. I'm sure some elements of it are worse in economically depressed areas but for something like a water system in LA county, I doubt that it varies much by neighborhood (though I really don't know).

And obviously the water issue in LA isn't new. It may have even been mentioned in a screenplay.

 

[superchuck500]

And obviously the water issue in LA isn't new. It may have even been mentioned in a screenplay.

Yep. The LA officials stated in the report that there's enough water reserves for 40 million people for a year - the system is connected to multiple million gallon tanks and to managed reservoirs.

The system, however, "was not designed to fight wildfires" within Los Angeles - and the Pallisades area is elevated, which requires more pressure to the water through to the hydrants. There was apparently 4-times the design capacity draw for 15 straight hours. The system relies on physics, which can be overwhelmed - but the most obvious solution would be to put powered pumps on the line - which, of course, would be massively expensive for a system that covers 4,000 square miles and services 10 million people.

Every major disaster reveals all sorts of weaknesses and chances for clear hindsight.

 

[efil4stnias]

Doesn't some of the issue also have to do with the system having been originally built for a fraction of the homes and population now reliant upon it?

living that right now in St Tammany parish. ( road infrastructure mainly )

 

[Bayouboy]

I think it’s because of how much we see instances of government waste, pocket-lining and misuse of funds that people would prefer to see existing funds spent more responsibly before agreeing to further tax increases.

No doubt, and I agree about the waste and misuse. I was more commenting on the openness of the general American to "sacrifice" for the common good of all people. If there's nothing in it for them....you get the idea. I won't delve into politics, but something is wrong with the whole system when in the middle of people dying, fleeing for their very lives - while a wildfire destroys countless homes, some politicize the moment. Can't we come together for ANYTHING anymore? I digress.....

 

[efil4stnias]

- but the most obvious solution would be to put powered pumps on the line - which, of course, would be massively expensive for a system that covers 4,000 square miles and services 10 million people.

ohhhh boy...

well we can tell you which ones NOT to get

 

[longtime lurker]

The fire on Mount Wilson is about to reach the tv and communications antennas atop it….that would be catastrophic if it knocked all that out.

 

[Goatman Saint]

Holy cow- the last frame is Altedena CA

almost every building is/was on fire.

Altadena for all practical purposes has been destroyed.

 

[superchuck500]

Heres a still shot of that video posted above. Altadena is going to look like Pallisades

 

[Goatman Saint]

Even with no wind, it would likely take several days to completely contain these fires.

As an aside, it appears that at least some of these new fires are being deliberately started by someone (or a group of people).

You up there in canyon country? Seems like that area is good now after talking to my brother

 

[Goatman Saint]

Heres a still shot of that video posted above. Altadena is going to look like Pallisades

My sister in laws family has lost at least 2 properties- her dad’s house and a rental. Looks like her moms house in Pasadena might make it

 

[superchuck500]

Whoops

 

[Goatman Saint]

Whoops

Haha all 10 million. That’s a whoops

 

[Mamba]

You up there in canyon country? Seems like that area is good now after talking to my brother

Newhall. Yeah, I think they've pretty well neutralized the Hurst fire. Supposedly, it's still burning, but I didn't even see smoke on my commute back home today.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Whoops

That’s about as bad as that nuclear scare in Hawaii back in the 50s or 60s, can’t remember the date.

 

[superchuck500]

Pallisades