Station Eleven (HBO MAX series) (3 Viewers)

like for The Leftovers it was front and center all of the time - for station 11 the bad stuff is super sublimated
very good point. They have very different approaches to the psychology (or what part of it they want to convey). And yet they still feel Like the same emotions driving the characters. Despair and loss of place in the world.
 
been thinking a lot about the comparisons - i think the chief difference is how each handle the trauma/tragedy
like for The Leftovers it was front and center all of the time - for station 11 the bad stuff is super sublimated
like everyone in Station 11 is some version of Nora except the prophet who is the GR

In Leftovers there were so many folks that were unaffected (98% maybe?) that in everyday live those unaffected almost forgot that the event even happened. With this series there is no denying what happened.
 
the one thing this one is missing, for me, is investment in main characters. I am not overly fond of Kirsten as an adult and find myself wanting more of the immediate post virus stuff. I get the impression that the most important parts of the story are in between the two time periods they go between.
 
Right which is why you go show -> bc the other way is always frustrating since you have to erase what you’ve already painted
Reading after a show means you get to dig deeper into a story you already love
I’m with you. But I’m pretty dyslexic so having the show as a CliffNotes is nice

Haven’t watched or read it yet…but it’ll get in line right after Wheel of Time and Witcher. House of the Titan and Attack on Titan are coming in January.

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find myself wanting more of the immediate post virus stuff. I get the impression that the most important parts of the story are in between the two time periods they go between.
that's the walking dead
i always wanted TWD to get onto society rebuilding and not just lurch from survival scenario to survival scenario
i MUCH prefer this format
 
More Miranda and Young Kirsten is what this show needs.
- while i very much enjoy young kirsten and miranda's characterization was one of the best things i've seen on tv, i'm not sure how much is left to either of their stories (you want to see YK get to the Conductor or see the early days of the travelling symphony?)

one of the things i loved about Rome was their attention to the detail of pre-christian 'morality'
so for me, the dynamic of the pre/post pans is what i'm interested in

that being said, if you asked me if i wanted Clark's story before Clark's story i'd'a been all "nah, i'm good"
 
the one thing this one is missing, for me, is investment in main characters. I am not overly fond of Kirsten as an adult and find myself wanting more of the immediate post virus stuff. I get the impression that the most important parts of the story are in between the two time periods they go between.
tbc, it’s not lost on me that my favorite part of the story is that a theatre company is coin of the realm
 
How does the show compare to the book plot wise?

Pretty similar or some big deviations?

I’m still deciding if I want to read the book or watch the show first
 
Episode 4 was by far my least favorite, just really deliberate and slow. Ep 5 was at least very interesting, even if a tad on the slow paced side. I really like the main character of the episode...he was borderline brilliant.
 
Episode 4 was by far my least favorite, just really deliberate and slow. Ep 5 was at least very interesting, even if a tad on the slow paced side. I really like the main character of the episode...he was borderline brilliant.
so i 'think what ep 4 was doing was very subtle world building
ep 2 just hits the ground running with 'this is the future and we're plowing ahead'
ep 4 let's us fill in some of the backstory but as nostalgia and memory as opposed to flashback
-- i kinda like the philosophy that we are not what we did but what we remembered what we did

there are 3 layers of humanity here - post-pans, pre-pans who came of age post-pan, and pre-pans who already had a firm identity before the pandemic
the latter group is show in the golf club - clearly a lost colony of sorts. served its purpose but no longer very functional
what they seem to be setting up is a battle for the soul of the post-pans between Kirsten and The Prophet - traditional order v chaos dichotomy
 

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