That Derek Carr Contract is Looking Pretty Brilliant Now (1 Viewer)

[Elvis]

Guys, Carr has $51 million in prorated and guaranteed roster bonuses on the books. $41 million of that would hit our cap IMMEDIATELY upon trading/cutting him. The Saints cannot afford to do anything with him. He is not going anywhere for at least 2 more years.

 

[texasjefe]

He can be our Luol Deng, a guy the Lakers paid for two years and never let him in the building.

 

[Stinkers]

just curious... but how many coaches have been fired during Carr's road to 40k? Gotta be a record, and certainly an interesting stat.

I would wager that 80% of those losses weren't his fault. Remember that the Raiders have NEVER had a defense ranked higher than ~22nd during his tenure there.

But if you think the QB is responsible for wins and losses, you're watching the wrong sport. Go watch singles tennis or golf.

 

[texasjefe]

I would wager that 80% of those losses weren't his fault. Remember that the Raiders have NEVER had a defense ranked higher than ~22nd during his tenure there.

But if you think the QB is responsible for wins and losses, you're watching the wrong sport. Go watch singles tennis or golf.

1000% disagree on your QB take about responsibility for wins and losses.

Did you watch Carr and the Raiders? Lots of drives, few points to show.

Here's 7 minutes of his pick 6's with the Raiders.

 

[HoustonGold]

Guys, Carr has $51 million in prorated and guaranteed roster bonuses on the books. $41 million of that would hit our cap IMMEDIATELY upon trading/cutting him. The Saints cannot afford to do anything with him. He is not going anywhere for at least 2 more years.

SP would have no problem trading him regardless. Looks at Russell Wilson.

 

[Elvis]

SP would have no problem trading him regardless. Looks at Russell Wilson.

It's not desire, it's math.

 

[HoustonGold]

I would wager that 80% of those losses weren't his fault. Remember that the Raiders have NEVER had a defense ranked higher than ~22nd during his tenure there.

But if you think the QB is responsible for wins and losses, you're watching the wrong sport. Go watch singles tennis or golf.

Let that sink in

Derek Carr is the NFL's first QB to lose to 31 teams, and he can make it all 32 this year

By losing to the Panthers on Sunday, Saints starting quarterback Derek Carr did something no quarterback has done before: He lost to his 31st different team.

www.nbcsports.com

Although no NFL quarterback has ever lost to all 32 franchises, four quarterbacks in NFL history have beaten all 32 teams: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre and Drew Brees.

 

[HoustonGold]

Tell your boy to quit spending and start selling.

 

[SirLoinSaint64]

They have to get the big contracts off the books. I mean, it's not like they're getting return on their investment. It may take three years but it's time to hit the reset button.

 

[HoustonGold]

Guys, Carr has $51 million in prorated and guaranteed roster bonuses on the books. $41 million of that would hit our cap IMMEDIATELY upon trading/cutting him. The Saints cannot afford to do anything with him. He is not going anywhere for at least 2 more years.

Well thanks for admitting it is a bad contract. Still sell it. Take the loss and let’s move on .

 

[Ghost]

But as told here, how the Saints handle the salary cap isn’t a problem because the cap always goes up and the FO is engaging in “future accounting.”

If true than Carr’s contract number shouldn’t matter. No?

 

[Ghost]

I would wager that 80% of those losses weren't his fault. Remember that the Raiders have NEVER had a defense ranked higher than ~22nd during his tenure there.

But if you think the QB is responsible for wins and losses, you're watching the wrong sport. Go watch singles tennis or golf.

You’ve watched all of his Raider games to know?

 

[rlemieux]

But as told here, how the Saints handle the salary cap isn’t a problem because the cap always goes up and the FO is engaging in “future accounting.”

If true than Carr’s contract number shouldn’t matter. No?

It all matters. We're 70 million over the cap for next year already. The only way to get under the cap is to do exactly what we can't afford, push contracts to future years. Mickey has destroyed this teams ability to build for the future. You're going to have to have a 2006/2017 draft class again just to tread water. "Make it happen Loomis" has made it happen and now we're paying the price for it.

 

[kcirdor]

I would wager that 80% of those losses weren't his fault. Remember that the Raiders have NEVER had a defense ranked higher than ~22nd during his tenure there.

But if you think the QB is responsible for wins and losses, you're watching the wrong sport. Go watch singles tennis or golf.

I simply asked a question about an interesting stat. It appears you added your own context to it..

 

[Que Que 6]

You’ve watched all of his Raider games to know?

If anyone lives in America, he/she is surrounded by Cowboys/Raiders fans. I live in the Deep South and I can rattle off 20 die hard Raiders fans in a minute or so. THEY watch all of the Raiders games. They mocked me endlessly 2 years ago when he first came and it has not subsided at all. Why do people still make excuses for sub-par players ?