Time to get some guys back from Injury and make a run (1 Viewer)

[tjharris]

its the same script: The saints will win 3 straight to get to 5-5. Then lose the next 3 before trading wins for losses every other week down the stretch.

Bro you're not supposed to leak the NFL script. You're treading dangerous waters.

As long as you don't spill the beans of Mahomes getting "hurt" and having to "fight through injuries" to win the Lombardi this year.

Oops

 

[T.Sneden84]

Bro you're not supposed to leak the NFL script. You're treading dangerous waters.

As long as you don't spill the beans of Mahomes getting "hurt" and having to "fight through injuries" to win the Lombardi this year.

Oops

that's just the saints script. all good

 

[SweetT]

The division winner will have at best nine wins.

So we would have to go 7-3 in the next 10 games for us to win the division. I can’t see that happening. TB and ATL would have to go 5-5. That’s more realistic since our division is a bunch of mid and below mid teams.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

However, we are likely NEVER going to win anything significant with DA as the head coach. There is no further evidence needed. He got his guys, his coaches, his QB, etc etc and the product isn't any better. Yes, he has been dealt a crappy hand this season with injuries, but that is part of the NFL. Happens every year to a lot of teams.

that's what makes this season so interesting/bad science experiment
many said an OC change is what this team really needed
we did that and destroyed 2 teams at beginning of season (turns out to be one very bad and one very mediocre team)
then all **** breaks loose
so we have evidence - we get to argue how compelling that evidence is - but we do have evidence

so is DA bad or is he like the unluckiest coach ever?
or a bit of both?

 

[St. Widge]

As unhopeful as I am, I will admit, the schedule does set up nicely for us to do something crazy if we suddenly got healthy.

I just don’t see us suddenly getting healthy or just as importantly, staying healthy.

The OL can get healthy, but we are still down Shaheed which is a big loss for the offense. If Olave can come back from the concussion and not get another one, they have a shot since the running game is really the key to this offense and Means appears to be developing well.

It will still be really hard to win the division because they would likely have to win 7 or 8 out of 10 to do it which seems nearly impossible, but they do have a really easy schedule.

Of course all that is contingent on whether or not they have quit on DA. It looked like they did in the Denver game, but that can happen in the 3rd game in 10 days on a Thursday night. Exhaustion can look a lot like quitting.

But, what I think will happen is that they will get to around 7 wins and not win the division. My fear is that that will be enough for DA to save his job. Which would be bad for the long term future of this team.

Still I can't pull for them to lose.

 

[BBarnes]

that's what makes this season so interesting/bad science experiment
many said an OC change is what this team really needed
we did that and destroyed 2 teams at beginning of season (turns out to be one very bad and one very mediocre team)
then all **** breaks loose
so we have evidence - we get to argue how compelling that evidence is - but we do have evidence

so is DA bad or is he like the unluckiest coach ever?
or a bit of both?

I am completely fine with using some objectivity as well. I think he is a bit of both.

Here is what I think:

DA was unfortunate to get the Raider job early on. He was too young to get that job, and I honestly do not think they ever intended on him being there long. He was just something to fill the seat. He had no real idea what all went into that and the organization itself was in shambles. It was honestly a no-win situation for him. Nothing good was coming out of that.

Then when he gets the job here, he's following the greatest coach in our history. That is darn near impossible. Especially here where we, as a fanbase, were starved for so very long to be on top of the mountain. Once we got there, we wanted to be there every year. He took over a pretty solid roster, but it lacked a decent option at QB, and had a GM where his vision was that we could just keep things like they are and replicate Sean's success. Following the successful guy's footsteps (Sean's) was going to be hard enough, but then you choose to keep everything the same implying that DA can step in and things will keep rolling. So, you have made it way more difficult for that new coach to even duck Sean's shadow for 1 minute. Then the first season, due to the incredibly easy schedule turned out to be a failure, followed by another season where you beat up on two awful football teams and everything looks to be trending up, and then you suffer an unimaginable amount of injuries.

So yes, he has been unfortunate. That in itself is unfortunate, but that's life. At the end of the day you produce or you do not. Yes, there are injuries. Could you see Mike Tomlin's defense doing what ours has lately if they had a ton of injuries? I am talking about effort-wise. I just used him as an example, pick any really good coach, and slide his name in. There is more to the story here than bad luck according to what we are seeing on the field and the lack of effort, however, yes, he's been unfortunate.

 

[HouseCall]

The division winner will have at best nine wins.

Even if that’s the case - Atlanta is the odds on favorite to reach that milestone. We not only have to catch the Falcons who are 2 games up on us and with a win over us - they have a 3-0 division record so we’d have to have a better record than them or hope they lose to Tampa Sunday.

 

[Pkessling]

its the same script: The saints will win 3 straight to get to 5-5. Then lose the next 3 before trading wins for losses every other week down the stretch.

Has DA ever won three straight?

 

[St. Widge]

that's what makes this season so interesting/bad science experiment
many said an OC change is what this team really needed
we did that and destroyed 2 teams at beginning of season (turns out to be one very bad and one very mediocre team)
then all **** breaks loose
so we have evidence - we get to argue how compelling that evidence is - but we do have evidence

so is DA bad or is he like the unluckiest coach ever?
or a bit of both?

It could be both.

Honestly, I think DA is a mediocre head coach. He will largely get you the results that the talent on your team says you should get with a game or two variance one way or the other based on luck/injuries.

This year with the unprecedented injuries we have it's probably a net of two lost games due to luck/injury or maybe three. So, IMO, that likely means that this potentially 9-8 or 10-7 team ends up around 7-10.

IMO that means it's time to move on from DA and has been time for a year or two. You don't want to have your season dependent on injury luck. I think they need to keep hiring head coaches until they find one that can get better results than the talent he has dictates. That to me is how you really make your team a contender. Because the NFL is designed for parity with maybe 2 games separating mediocre teams from good teams, the difference to large extent comes from who is your head coach and can he get the team to play better than the sum of it's parts.

The other wild card IMO that gets teams out of the mediocre level that the NFL is designed for is a franchise QB. And we need to keep drafting QBs until we are sure we have one of those too.

 

[rail]

It is more than evident that it needs to be stripped to the studs and a (forbidden word) *rebuild* needs to happen. We have seen, and can reasonably project, the ceiling of this team. 8/9 wins, just missing the playoffs, and a mid-round pick while Loomis keeps telling us it's all fine and DA keeps doin' what he's doin'.

This will never change without a hard reset and finally keeping Loomis' fingers out of it. I'm dreaming though - this franchise will continue with the definition of insanity.

 

[St. Widge]

Has DA ever won three straight?

Not in the same year that I am aware of. But, he did win 4 straight starting with the last 2 games of last season and continuing through the first 2 games of this season.

 

[St. Widge]

It is more than evident that it needs to be stripped to the studs and a (forbidden word) *rebuild* needs to happen. We have seen, and can reasonably project, the ceiling of this team. 8/9 wins, just missing the playoffs, and a mid-round pick while Loomis keeps telling us it's all fine and DA keeps doin' what he's doin'.

This will never change without a hard reset and finally keeping Loomis' fingers out of it. I'm dreaming though - this franchise will continue with the definition of insanity.

That ceiling is more about DA than anything. The right coach can get this team to 10 or 11 wins even though it has the talent of an 8 or 9 win team.

But, if the talent is 8 or 9 wins why would you want to tear that down instead of building on the foundation you have. Certainly Cam Jordan needs to go and you don't sing Kamara to a huge long deal and you probably trade Lattimore, but you also keep guys like Fuaga, Penning, Olave, Shaheed, Breese, McCoy, Ruiz, Means, Granderson, and Taylor. And you pretty much so have to keep Carr for at least another year due to the cap implications if nothing else.

 

[BooBirdSaint]

A 32nd ranked run defense says it isn't all about injuries. If this defense doesn't make a 180 in a hurry then getting all the walking wounded back won't make any difference.

 

[Covington Saint]

There's no DA in QUITTING. Sometimes we just got to pop off.

 

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