UnitedHealth CEO shot

[CapitalCitySaint]

Where does it end?

When greedy executives are no longer profiting off of the working class and hoarding all the wealth. When physicians; not morally corrupt insurance companies, are deciding what is best for their patients. That’s a start.

Fork his family, too. They had no problems living a luxurious life funded by taking advantage of fellow citizens. I wonder how many people went bankrupt or died after being denied coverage for things they should have had covered. Sure, it’s sad for them that the person they knew in a different light as husband and father is gone. I can acknowledge that they are probably hurting right now but I doubt they ever thought of the people who were hurt by the policies and price gouging their beloved daddy/hubby caused.

You can’t guilt me into feeling empathy to people who have benefited directly off the suffering and injustice to others when bad ish happens to them.

 

[Saintman2884]

Or perhaps the end of the current oligarchy in the US. Gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

And if it gets out of control like it usually tends to? A lot of innocent, unnecessary eggs will get murdered, shot and killed. It's never just the people who deserve it the most, is it?

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

I read an article with a quote from his wife that he had been receiving threats for a while and it was apparently related to denied coverage.

I truly despise UNC. They are evil. They once tired to refuse to pay for my anesthesia for a major surgery AFTER it had been approved, leaving me on the hook for a bill I could not afford.

What did the University of North Carolina have to do with that?

 

[Saintman2884]

When greedy executives are no longer profiting off of the working class and hoarding all the wealth. When physicians; not morally corrupt insurance companies, are deciding what is best for their patients. That’s a start.

Fork his family, too. They had no problems living a luxurious life funded by taking advantage of fellow citizens. I wonder how many people went bankrupt or died after being denied coverage for things they should have had covered. Sure, it’s sad for them that the person they knew in a different light as husband and father is gone. I can acknowledge that they are probably hurting right now but I doubt they ever thought of the people who were hurt by the policies and price gouging their beloved daddy/hubby caused.

You can’t guilt me into feeling empathy to people who have benefited directly off the suffering and injustice to others when bad ish happens to them.

As long as it doesn't burn or affect any of us in the same way, we can emphatize or sympathize until the bodies start piling up.

Physicians are corrupt and are prone to making stupid, idiotic decisions regarding your health, too and no, its always been related to profit margins or motive. It's just their incompetent or stuck in their ways to change, so if you're going to have a rage fix, don't leave them out of the equation, either. An incompetent doctor made my mother's Rosatia A lot worse when he completely misdiagnosed her condition and gave her medication that made it worse back in the late 90's.

 

[saintmdterps]

And if it gets out of control like it usually tends to? A lot of innocent, unnecessary eggs will get murdered, shot and killed. It's never just the people who deserve it the most, is it?

It's already out of control.

 

[SWJJ]

Kyle Rittenhouse was an incel, sure Guido but he also had a pretty good defense he could employ saying he was just there to protect his father during a George Floyd/BLM riot and he was attacked by one of the BLM rioters (allegedly a convicted sex offender) who tried to take away his gun and use it on him it was either "fight or flight" and he choose to fight.

The situations really aren't comparable other then some segments understanding or privately condoning (not on social media) what this shooter did to this health insurance CEO.

Rittenhouse wasnt or isn't a good person and his personal politics made a already-tense situation worse but he didn't attack anyone with his guns until one of them started a fight with him because he didn't like his views. Rittenhouse shouldn't have been there but that doesn't give a bunch of rioters the excuse to assault and possibly kill someone they don't like them.

Let's not let this evolve into a political partisan back and forth, and focus on the UHC story here.

 

[SWJJ]

As long as it doesn't burn or affect any of us in the same way, we can emphatize or sympathize until the bodies start piling up.

Physicians are corrupt and are prone to making stupid, idiotic decisions regarding your health, too and no, its always been related to profit margins or motive. It's just their incompetent or stuck in their ways to change, so if you're going to have a rage fix, don't leave them out of the equation, either. An incompetent doctor made my mother's Rosatia A lot worse when he completely misdiagnosed her condition and gave her medication that made it worse back in the late 90's.

corrupt =/= incompetent.

I'm sorry about your mother's situation, but as a whole, physicians do a lot more good than they do harm.

 

[Saintman2884]

He was the head of a company that has, through down channel actions, absolutely killed people while lining their pockets. He was the head of a company that has denial rates that are 2x the industry average and their profits have skyrocketed.


I'm not going to go off on a whole soicopolitical rant about the current state of the world, but at a certain point rage towards the wealth hoarders and power brokers will spill over into violence. It always does. They harm too many people to maintain their status. Its inevitable.

As has already been said in the thread, I don't condone murder, but I understand the rage that led the guy to this point.

Their are some on the far-right like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers that make the same kind of insane rhetorical claims and threats to people, individuals, politicians they don't like and at a certain point, their deluded rage spills into violence. It always seems to. Whether it's George Floyd or January 6, the reasons don't have to matter, Sun. As long as people have a sense of grievance, right or wrong, they want to harm people too not to change the status quo, but to eliminate it.

It doesn't matter if their guy lost an election, or its crooked, Wall St. investors, brokers or health-care professionals, some people who have a grievance and if its severe enough, they'll risk knocking some heads to do it.

 

[Saintman2884]

Let's not let this evolve into a political partisan back and forth, and focus on the UHC story here.

SWJJ, we already have gotten that way when somebody says "fork his GD family" too because somehow their morally as responsible for bilking people out of money as he was even though they never spent a day or an hour working at a health insurance company. I didn't bring up Kyle Rittenhouse, either BTW, if we're going to go down that road.

I guess I should forking blame one of the parents of the January 6 idiots who storm the Capital to overturn A fair, democratically won-election because I think their forking stupid parents even though some of them disagreed strongly with their siblings' decisions and tried to talk them out of it. Lets shift the blame onto them too while we're at it. Reasons don't have to matter, SWJJ, or who's more deluded as long as we continue to believe we have grievances.

 

[Saintman2884]

corrupt =/= incompetent.

I'm sorry about your mother's situation, but as a whole, physicians do a lot more good than they do harm.

Sometimes doctors or physicians kill people with their incompetence or stupidity, SWJJ. And yes, Doctors can still be corrupt, too. Maybe not on the same level as UHC CEO's but where it hurts or kills their patients, so my original comment stays where it is. That still doesn't give me the right to say or wish "fork their families" too if something bad happens to them, too because somehow they share his/her stupidity or incompetence, too.

 

[Saintman2884]

It's already out of control.

So, that justifies a lot of dead bodies piled up who were completely innocent but were shot and killed, or murdered by fanatics because some bad eggs had to be broken but hey, we're creating a better world (at least for a while) who cares?

 

[saintmdterps]

So, that justifies a lot of dead bodies piled up who were completely innocent but were shot and killed, or murdered by fanatics because some bad eggs had to be broken but hey, we're creating a better world (at least for a while) who cares?

Well we could change legislation to overhaul the tax code and increase tax rates on billionaires, and the companies they own, create a single-payer healthcare system, and fix social security.

Oh that’s right, legislators are part of the corrupt system.

 

[SWJJ]

Sometimes doctors or physicians kill people with their incompetence or stupidity, SWJJ. And yes, Doctors can still be corrupt, too. Maybe not on the same level as UHC CEO's but where it hurts or kills their patients, so my original comment stays where it is. That still doesn't give me the right to say or wish "fork their families" too if something bad happens to them, too because somehow they share his/her stupidity or incompetence, too.

not nearly the same thing as systematically denying legitimate claims that results in countless deaths for profit.

Not even close.

You obviously have a personal axe to grind against doctors, and it's clouding your logic here.

 

[saintmdterps]

SWJJ, we already have gotten that way when somebody says "fork his GD family" too because somehow their morally as responsible for bilking people out of money as he was even though they never spent a day or an hour working at a health insurance company. I didn't bring up Kyle Rittenhouse, either BTW, if we're going to go down that road.

I guess I should forking blame one of the parents of the January 6 idiots who storm the Capital to overturn A fair, democratically won-election because I think their forking stupid parents even though some of them disagreed strongly with their siblings' decisions and tried to talk them out of it. Lets shift the blame onto them too while we're at it. Reasons don't have to matter, SWJJ, or who's more deluded as long as we continue to believe we have grievances.

A lot of the idiots in the Jan 6 insurrection were turned in by family and friends.

Dozens of Capitol rioters were turned in by childhood friends, family members, colleagues and ex-lovers who watched them storm the building

Some tipsters described watching their friend, family member or coworker develop increasingly extreme beliefs in the time leading up to the January 6 riot.

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