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When did I say this is new???

The only thing that is “new” is the extreme disparity in the amount of wealth in the US that the oligarchs in charge have compared to the working class.

It’s not naive - I just don’t have Stockholm syndrome.
The top 3 richest individuals in the US have as much wealth as the bottom 160,000,000. That is oligarchy. That is the pathology of wealth addiction. We are a sick society.
 
So you do think it will change things. What do either of those have to do with killing CEOs?

But, if you want to revolt and start a revolution go ahead you have that 2nd Amendment right that I know you hold so dear. So, join the Tea Party and start your maitia as a sovereign citizen. I'll buy you your red hat.

And by the way, how did the French Revolution turn out? I'm a little fuzzy on it, something about a reign of terror. Certainly nobody was kept in chains after the American Revolution. And now, in both France and the U.S. who is in charge? The people right? Not corporations and oligarchs right?
In the US it is indeed the corporations and oligarchs who are running the show. Thanks to Citizens United "our" legislators are nothing more than corporate shills pandering to their handlers. These people have entirely lost sight of the fact that they are public servants elected to serve the people. They serve in order to get re-elected, and only that.
 
the ruling class has taken away the working class’ only ways of pushing back/fighting back (legally), there’s little left to do. They bought the elections, they own the politicians from both major parties. They own the judges, the police. They tether our healthcare/life to our jobs to control us.

The problem with saying violence isn’t the answer is that violence is being perpetuated against all of us to some degree, every day but for some reason some of y’all are fine with that.
Our current legislative system is so-self rewarding that there is no incentive at all for it to change from within. therefore, change will need to imposed on it from without. By any means necessary, I'm cool with it.

Hell, I'll take up arms. I got nothing left to lose.
 
Our current legislative system is so-self rewarding that there is no incentive at all for it to change from within. therefore, change will need to imposed on it from without. By any means necessary, I'm cool with it.

Hell, I'll take up arms. I got nothing left to lose.
You really need to change your avatar.
 
You really need to change your avatar.
Nah, I’m unattached. Hence nothing to lose. You do remember the Buddhist monk who self-immolated in protest of the Vietnam war? Violence against oneself is still violence. Loss of life in the hope of preventing further horrors is honorable. The Dalai Lama sanctioned the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

And it’s been a ******-****** helluva year.
 
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Nah, I’m unattached. Hence nothing to lose. You do remember the Buddhist monk who self-immolated in protest of the Vietnam war? Violence against oneself is still violence. Loss of life to prevent further horrors is honorable. Hence the Dalai Lama sanctioned the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

And it’s been a ******-****** helluva year.

I do recall the Buddhist monk who self-immolated himself. But he did that instead of you know, killing soldiers or political leaders. And while the Dalai Lama sanctioned the killing of Bin Laden, he did so because he was a murderer and he has never mounted an armed rebellion to take back Nepal from the Chinese.

Though I guess to be fair, Siddharth was a murdered at one time on his path to enlightenment. I just hope you find peace before it gets to that.
 
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I do recall the Buddhist monk who self-immolated himself. But he did that instead of you know, killing soldiers or political leaders. And while the Dalai Lama sanctioned the killing of Bin Laden, he did so because he was a murderer and he has never mounted an armed rebellion to take back Nepal from the Chinese.

Though I guess to be fair, Siddharth was a murdered at one time on his path to enlightenment. I just hope you find peace before it gets to that.
i don't think Bin Laden personally killed anyone..
just throwing that out there..
 
I do recall the Buddhist monk who self-immolated himself. But he did that instead of you know, killing soldiers or political leaders. And while the Dalai Lama sanctioned the killing of Bin Laden, he did so because he was a murderer and he has never mounted an armed rebellion to take back Nepal from the Chinese.

Though I guess to be fair, Siddharth was a murdered at one time on his path to enlightenment. I just hope you find peace before it gets to that.
Me too.

I hope this country regains its moral footing before we descend into chaos.

We can also to some extent equate CEO’s who allow folks to perish under their watch to Nazi commandants in charge of holocaust protocols. No direct hand in deaths, but enabled horrible systems to flourish. Yes it’s a reach but this “healthcare” system is like no other in the developed world. Piss on it.
 
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i don't think Bin Laden personally killed anyone..
just throwing that out there..
He didn’t, but he enabled those who did.

Religion and healthcare. Two systems that are supposed to provide healing and help. And yet here we are.
 
The local court system is corrupt. But not in the ways you think. You really want to hurt corporation and insurance companies? Sue them and take them to court in places like Louisiana. They lose pretty much so every time and they are forced to do the one thing that hurts them, pay money in huge amounts.
lol at suing corporations and insurance companies. Don’t you need money and time to sue someone? I bet those working class forks have a lot of those two things.
 
lol at suing corporations and insurance companies. Don’t you need money and time to sue someone? I bet those working class forks have a lot of those two things.
You'd be surprised. I worked for an attorney who specialized in dealing with insurance cases, mostly dealing with property damage/loss. Cases involving insurance and insurance fraud happens all the time. Most cases get settled, but more than a few do end up in the courts.

That said, insurance companies do indeed usually have more resources and the system favors them in most cases.
 
You'd be surprised. I worked for an attorney who specialized in dealing with insurance cases, mostly dealing with property damage/loss. Cases involving insurance and insurance fraud happens all the time. Most cases get settled, but more than a few do end up in the courts.

That said, insurance companies do indeed usually have more resources and the system favors them in most cases.
I don’t doubt it. However, for every person who could afford an attorney, there is one who couldn’t and I am being very generous with this statistic.
If everyone is able to sue when they face injustice from corporations, we wouldn’t need government groups like the EPA, the BCP, etc..
Closer to home, there is an area dubs Cancer Alley. I don’t think suing is Ann option for the people who live in these parishes.
 

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