Vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon St., with 14 fatalities (3 Viewers)

[Sailorsaint]

It's odd. But, he was clearly not stable so it's hard to know what he was thinking or if his plans just got delayed. Maybe he had second thoughts or couldn't work up the courage until then? He had to know he was going to die doing this. Maybe it took him time to finally decide to do it.

This is a decent point. It takes a certain mindset to go into a situation knowing that it's a "suicide mission". Maybe that's why a lot of these people that do these things are ex military? They've been trained to put the mission first and foremost. No, or little, fear of dying as long as they complete the mission.

 

[ktulu909]

Does Jeff Landry fake his accent?

Its Coonass Desantis

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

But then look at the number of guys making videos or posting at various places who talk about trying to open up about their emotions to their wives/girlfriends only to have them sheet all over them for it. I have a friend who was going through some really bad stuff, decided to uncharacteristically open up to his wife about it and instead of getting a kind ear he got read the riot act about how it wasn't her job to handle his emotional burdens.

Society pretends it wants men to be emotionally open and vulnerable but reality is often it's just better to soldier on because nobody in your life really wants to hear about it.

Therapy helps somewhat. It's a better option than opening up to those around you because at least a therapist won't weaponize your weaknesses against you.

I wonder how prevalent this is.. I know this is a fear a lot of men have, but I haven't really run into that in my marriage or life in general.

I do know in general we don't put a lot of emphasis on kindness in society. Treating people well, and being there for them.

 

[SaintRob]

Does Jeff Landry fake his accent?

He sounds like he's trying to do a Dennis Quaid impersonation from The Big Easy.

 

[St. Widge]

This is a decent point. It takes a certain mindset to go into a situation knowing that it's a "suicide mission". Maybe that's why a lot of these people that do these things are ex military? They've been trained to put the mission first and foremost. No, or little, fear of dying as long as they complete the mission.

That seems like a reasonable explanation for why someone could do this.

I think this thing looked different when it looked like it was a group of people involved. (Maybe it still is but the group they thought was involved was not.) If it was a larger group carrying out a plan then it would look more like an actual ISIS plot carried out by "true believers" who believe in the 40 virgins, etc.

But, if it is just him acting alone, this seems to be more of a guy with mental issues that snapped and latched on to ISIS propaganda which he used as his reason to act. So, if he wasn't a "true believer" I could see where he would have hesitated to act and his military training may have been what in the end allowed him to act knowing that he was going to die.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Something is going on with the men in this country. I'm not saying its all men...but it's almost always a man.

Toxic masculinity. This ideal that the only emotion men should feel is Anger, or that having feelings makes you unmasculine. We repress emotion instead of learning how to feel emotion and it's completely unhealthy and destructive.

There is a lot of discussion now about what's going on with young men in particular -- there seems to be a lot more directionless/malaise going on. Gender politics seems worse as well. In the manosphere, the blame is being put on women/feminism.

It really means that us guys, need to step up when it comes to policing our own and help those we see slipping into violence and fear mongering and placing their troubles on others.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

But then look at the number of guys making videos or posting at various places who talk about trying to open up about their emotions to their wives/girlfriends only to have them sheet all over them for it. I have a friend who was going through some really bad stuff, decided to uncharacteristically open up to his wife about it and instead of getting a kind ear he got read the riot act about how it wasn't her job to handle his emotional burdens.

Society pretends it wants men to be emotionally open and vulnerable but reality is often it's just better to soldier on because nobody in your life really wants to hear about it.

Therapy helps somewhat. It's a better option than opening up to those around you because at least a therapist won't weaponize your weaknesses against you.

Well the first thing they are doing wrong is making a video/posting about it. Some things truly need to be kept off the internet.

I think men in general at some point need to acknowledge that a lot of women won't have sympathy because for centuries and still to this day, we live in a society that was very much built for men while women had to endure a lot of abuse, neglect and generally speaking just not treated as equals and told "that's just the way it is."

Both sides have a lot of reconciliation around the "that's just the way it is" and "suck it up" that the other feels and do a better job to be better to each other but men need to acknowledge that this is something women have had to deal with forever; while it's a relatively new phenomena for men to not have everything centered around them.

I've even seen it reported in here that this dude was mad at his ex-wife because HE was behind on child support, had other financial woes, etc. If anyone was mad and needed to be lashing out, it was the ex-wife because she's had to support those kids by herself and probably never gets a break.

The stigma for a single mom is far worse than the stigma for a deadbeat dad.

 

[Tapxe]

Toxic masculinity. This ideal that the only emotion men should feel is Anger, or that having feelings makes you unmasculine. We repress emotion instead of learning how to feel emotion and it's completely unhealthy and destructive.

Add to that social media has distorted the female expectations to the point that studies find 60% of men under 30 have given up on dating. Men are frustrated by women who aren't worth the trouble any longer because they believe they are safer with a bear than a man. Then they go out and brag about getting a body count or complain that they were used when they ignore a decent guy and only talk to the ones who are willing to use them because they understand the game.

The false accusation angle makes it pretty terrifying to invite a woman to the bedroom especially if she's had some booze. And honestly, it doesn't end there.

It's a very dysfunctional scene which is less satisfying than firing up the web browser and taking matters in hand. It creates a cesspool perfect for men who have no emotional intelligence or social network for support.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Does Jeff Landry fake his accent?

i don't think he fakes his accent like John Kennedy does

 

[Dago]

There is a lot of discussion now about what's going on with young men in particular -- there seems to be a lot more directionless/malaise going on. Gender politics seems worse as well. In the manosphere, the blame is being put on women/feminism.

It really means that us guys, need to step up when it comes to policing our own and help those we see slipping into violence and fear mongering and placing their troubles on others.

This doesn't just apply to men

Unfortunately our society has decided that it's easier to go down the toxic road of paying more attention to what others have or do than to focus on just simply being a better person today than you were yesterday

 

[Tapxe]

There is a lot of discussion now about what's going on with young men in particular -- there seems to be a lot more directionless/malaise going on. Gender politics seems worse as well. In the manosphere, the blame is being put on women/feminism.

It really means that us guys, need to step up when it comes to policing our own and help those we see slipping into violence and fear mongering and placing their troubles on others.

It's a two way street. Women need to do the same with themselves and learn that not all men are smooth talking 6 foot, 6 figure, 6 pack ab guys and that most of them are users after a body count.

If you don't fit that mold or are socially awkward, you are excluded. Women can claim they need to measure up to insane standards, but then they do the exact same to average guys. And lets me honest, we all know guys standards aren't that set in stone when it comes to it.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

This doesn't just apply to men

Unfortunately our society has decided that it's easier to go down the toxic road of paying more attention to what others have or do than to focus on just simply being a better person today than you were yesterday

Yeah, it's generally true everywhere... but I'm seeing it a bit more directly with young men. But overall, we do need a lot of work as a society.

 

[saintmdterps]

But then look at the number of guys making videos or posting at various places who talk about trying to open up about their emotions to their wives/girlfriends only to have them sheet all over them for it. I have a friend who was going through some really bad stuff, decided to uncharacteristically open up to his wife about it and instead of getting a kind ear he got read the riot act about how it wasn't her job to handle his emotional burdens.

.Society pretends it wants men to be emotionally open and vulnerable but reality is often it's just better to soldier on because nobody in your life really wants to hear about it

Therapy helps somewhat. It's a better option than opening up to those around you because at least a therapist won't weaponize your weaknesses against you.

Don't tell other folks your problems. 80% don't care and the other 20% are glad you have them

I'm only partially joking. However, I did open up on another site about a couple recent problem with which I'd been struggling and was surprised and heartened by the support I received. Many thanked me for being strong enough to discuss my mental health issues. We're still not at a point in society where emotional concerns are treated with the same gravity as physical concerns. Trauma is cumulative and everyone has a breaking point, and I had reached mine. I'm improving now that the holidays are over.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

It's a two way street. Women need to do the same with themselves and learn that not all men are smooth talking 6 foot, 6 figure, 6 pack ab guys and that most of them are users after a body count.

If you don't fit that mold or are socially awkward, you are excluded. Women can claim they need to measure up to insane standards, but then they do the exact same to average guys.

It's certainly possible. I haven't been in the dating game in a long time, and of course, objectively I'm a catch (/sarcasm for the internet).

I generally fall into the category of figuring out what's wrong with myself first and then working outward. And in that hierarchy, I'm going to focus on guys before I focus on women.

I guess I can bring up a point in another thread I made -- the idea of de-centering sex and relationships. We place way to much emphasis, and self worth, on whether we can get laid, or end up in a long term marriage. And I say that as someone who enjoys sex and my marriage. But I've gotten happier in my life and my marriage the more I define my value on how well I help other people out, or other measures of my worth to myself and society - and not on how easy it is for me to get laid.

 

[saintmdterps]

Never heard him in person but I think he does naturally have a bit of a cajun accent. But, he probably does turn it up for affect at times. But, it's also possible that the heavy accent is how he grew up and sometimes it just pops back up.

I know that I grew up with a fairly strong accent that I have mostly gotten rid of, but it does pop up from time to time when I'm around others that have it or when under stress.

I don't think he's like Senator Kennedy who went from having no accent to talking like Foghorn Leghorn.

I use my smart accent when I'm around smart people, my local redneck accent when I'm around rednecks, and my mild southern accent when I think it will get me laid