When will we find out about OBJ (2 Viewers)

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ELLIASJWILLIAMS said:
Beckham should be a Saint by Wed and on the practice field by Thursday giving him two days of practice to carve out a limited role while they get him up to speed.

I don’t know how quick a learner he is but it took Emmanuel Sanders a couple weeks to settle in even as a vet. Beckham potentially can provide a little more athletic juice but a 10 catch 100 yd game after 3 days as a Saint would seem like a stretch.

4 catches for 50 yards and a td is doable Tho
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so you thinking hes just saying seattle for no reason>?
 
Seattle makes absolutely no sense to me.

OBJ is an undisciplined route runner that frustrates coaches and QBs. He's an attention hog and would cut into the attention that Russ and Pete control right now.

Seattle's desperate to regain that Beast Mode running game mentality and adding OBJ would do NOTHING to achieve that.

I just don't see it. It would be a waste of cap space that could be carried over to next year that is needed to fund some voided year contracts. By my count, Seattle has $9.375M in voided contracts to absorb next year.

If you weren't aware, the Saints have $29.5M coming due in 2022 ($11.5M from Drew), another $10.1 M in 2023, and another $11.2M in 2024. The salary cap can't go up fast enough starting next year.
 
I just dont know if we are in a position any longer to do anything else to the cap that will cost us in the future. Sure we are 5-3. Many teams would love to be sitting at 5-3. But this season has just been 1 disaster after another and it just seems we are at a point where we shouldnt be buyers. I just dont see OBJ moving the needle in January. He isnt that guy. He isnt a healthy Michael Thomas. Would he make us better? Yes. Does the potential cap hit of restructuring contracts and push more dead money into the future worth it? I dont think so. Theres just too many holes on this roster, and too many guys who cant stay on the field.

I understand you cant prevent injuries, and every team has them. We just seem to tie up a lot of money in guys who always end up hurt. They need to make tough decisions to release players that just cant stay on the field. We have a lot of time and money invested in guys who stay on the trainers table. And OBJ isnt exactly the picture of health.
 
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Saintcd said:
If I was Seattle, I’d claim him just to be the @$$. This is why you never have your credit card maxed out. Saints love payday loans.
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So you’d make a terrible business decision just to spite a team you don’t even play more than every couple years most of the time?

And the Saints are one of about 22 teams who can’t claim him right now. It’s not like they’re alone here.
 
44slayer said:
I just dont know if we are in a position any longer to do anything else to the cap that will cost us in the future. Sure we are 5-3. Many teams would love to be sitting at 5-3. But this season has just been 1 disaster after another and it just seems we are at a point where we shouldnt be buyers. I just dont see OBJ moving the needle in January. He isnt that guy. He isnt a healthy Michael Thomas. Would he make us better? Yes. Does the potential cap hit of restructuring contracts and push more dead money into the future worth it? I dont think so. Theres just too many holes on this roster, and too many guys who cant stay on the field.

I understand you cant prevent injuries, and every team has them. We just seem to tie up a lot of money in guys who always end up hurt. They need to make tough decisions to release players that just cant stay on the field. We have a lot of time and money invested in guys who just cant stay Ion the field. OBJ isnt exactly the picture of health.
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Same here. Why should we be buying at this point? Will OBJ really make that big a difference right now? Let's be real, the guy has been irrelevant for years. You can lay blame all you want on Cleveland but they always seem to score more points and move the football when he isn't playing. I keep reading about his route running. Do we really need a WR running off script with players like Trevor Siemian whom can't move to save their life? He will just turn the ball over if OBJ decides to run the wrong/lazy route. OBJ off the field personality/persona has always been bigger than the actual product on the field.
 
gregh said:
so you thinking hes just saying seattle for no reason>?
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I’m being optimistic!

I do think Seattle and 49ers were mentioned so that it drums up some competition and the Saints pony up with their best offer vs a lowball. However I have faith that if he wants #1 receiver treatment on a playoff team the 49ers and Seahawks can’t offer both unlike us.
 
Usmfan84 said:
Same here. Why should we be buying at this point? Will OBJ really make that big a difference right now? Let's be real, the guy has been irrelevant for years. You can lay blame all you want on Cleveland but they always seem to score more points and move the football when he isn't playing. I keep reading about his route running. Do we really need a WR running off script with players like Trevor Siemian whom can't move to save their life? He will just turn the ball over if OBJ decides to run the wrong/lazy route. OBJ off the field personality/persona has always been bigger than the actual product on the field.
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The thing that I am considering is whether for a half season rental he is better than anything we have currently. To me the answer is yes, thus I say go for him if he clears FA. Frankly not expecting him to sign with us, but I don't think we lose anything for trying if he clears waivers!
 
Saint Spud said:
So you’d make a terrible business decision just to spite a team you don’t even play more than every couple years most of the time?

And the Saints are one of about 22 teams who can’t claim him right now. It’s not like they’re alone here.
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It’s not a terrible decision if you actually have the money to do it, it might keep Wilson in Seattle, add an extra threat at WR and potentially keep a rival team from getting him. But the biggest reason is Seattle actually has the extra money to be petty and if he leaves at the end of the year, you may get a comp pic for him.

A terrible decision would be the saints signing him if he gets thru waiver and kicking more money down the road for a cheap this year hit. We’ve done that so many years already and just one super bowl over a decade ago.
 
Saintcd said:
It’s not a terrible decision if you actually have the money to do it, it might keep Wilson in Seattle, add an extra threat at WR and potentially keep a rival team from getting him. But the biggest reason is Seattle actually has the extra money to be petty and if he leaves at the end of the year, you may get a comp pic for him.

A terrible decision would be the saints signing him if he gets thru waiver and kicking more money down the road for a cheap this year hit. We’ve done that so many years already and just one super bowl over a decade ago.
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It is a terrible decision when your salary cap money rolls over and you are paying someone over $1 million a game as a 3-5 football team.
 
SaintKenKen said:
It'll either be him wanting to join a better QB like Russell Wilson ( but also have competition for targets with DK and Lockett) for more money

or

He wants to come to the Saints with a sketchy QB situation (and no competition for targets) for significantly less money

I wouldn't hold our breath on this news. He should definitely pick Seattle over us.
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Coming and playing for the highly competent home team can’t be understated. I’m sure his family wouldn’t mind that aspect one bit.

And his psyche could probably use the support. Sometimes it’s that simple.

Or he just wants the money. We shall see.
 

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