With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged) (21 Viewers)

[3ParStillDriver]

Oh look. I can do this silliness too.

Oh yeah? Please list them.

Already did.

AP was drafted almost two decades ago and the Vikings didn't win anything until they had Farve. He is also a HOF RB. So that's what it takes.

He still turned them from an awful team into a 3 seed with Brad Childress as head coach and Gus Frerotte at QB his second year. Remember saying that doesn't happen?

AK had 900 yards rushing and 400ish yards receiving. That production is not nearly enough to claim he lead us to anything. 2021 was a team year that was lead by our defense which was ranked 4th.

He still carried an inept offense, devoid of talent, with a 2nd string QB who keeps getting benched when given the chance, and Taysom Hill at QB. Marquez Callway was our WR1 that year, and we have two offensive lineman who 1 was already removed from being terrible the other, people currently want gone.. Again, something you said doesn't happen

All your doing is making excuses, and the funny thing is there are plenty more examples. I've got better things to do then research for you. Have fun.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

He still turned them from an awful team into a 3 seed with Brad Childress as head coach and Gus Frerotte at QB his second year. Remember saying that doesn't happen?

Awful team? They went from 8 wins in 2007 to 10 in 2008. That's two games.

He still carried an inept offense, devoid of talent, with a 2nd string QB who keeps getting benched when given the chance, and Taysom Hill at QB. Marquez Callway was our WR1 that year, and we have two offensive lineman who 1 was already removed from being terrible the other, people currently want gone.. Again, something you said doesn't happen

AK "carried" our offense to a bottom 5 in the league? Sounds like he did a horrible job. Further proves the point you can't build around a running back.

All your doing is making excuses, and the funny thing is there are plenty more examples. I've got better things to do then research for you. Have fun.

You have one decent example in the last 20 years. All it took was a first ballot HOF RB. Ridiculously high bar for Jeanty.

 

[woohoosaint]

Trade back into the late teens and pick up a late 2nd round pick. If anything, this teams needs an infusion of young players to compete for jobs and the draft is the only way we are going to be able to do that.

"Trade back" is not in the Book of Loomis.

 

[SweetT]

Some positions have more built in value over others. Running back picked inside the top 10 has almost never lead to successful team building.

Same with safety, center, tight end, and offball linebacker.

It's not to say they can't be impact players, just that you should value other positions more high in the draft.

Not to mention the ONE position we have a playmaker on offense is RB. You generally only play one at a time.

Ok, well the overwhelming majority of this board says that Oline is the most important position group, outside of QB, yet we have premium picks selected all across our OLine, and have nothing to show for it.
It’s not about what position you draft, it’s WHO you draft.

 

[TruSaint]

Ok, well the overwhelming majority of this board says that Oline is the most important position group, outside of QB, yet we have premium picks selected all across our OLine, and have nothing to show for it.
It’s not about what position you draft, it’s WHO you draft.

facts.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Ok, well the overwhelming majority of this board says that Oline is the most important position group, outside of QB, yet we have premium picks selected all across our OLine, and have nothing to show for it.
It’s not about what position you draft, it’s WHO you draft.

Nothing to show for it?

We have arguably the 2nd most important position in football LT locked down for the next decade. An all pro level center, hopefully a RT for the future as well.

The first two weeks of the year we dominated lead by our OLine before all hell broke loose with injuries.

OL is not a "win now" position group like RB is so you won't see instant success. You build it up the. build off it.

 

[TruSaint]

What the saints really need on D is a pass rush and a NT, that will fix most of the defensive issues.

The offense needs a tight end, possesion WR, and some guards.

If any of these are BPA when we pick, its pretty easy.

 

[SweetT]

Nothing to show for it?

We have arguably the 2nd most important position in football LT locked down for the next decade. An all pro level center, hopefully a RT for the future as well.

The first two weeks of the year we dominated lead by our OLine before all hell broke loose with injuries.

OL is not a "win now" position group like RB is so you won't see instant success. You build it up the. build off it.

Translate that into the Win column please
We had most of those guys last year. Didn’t do much
We still had premium picks across the Oline the year before that.
Didn’t do much

Let’s talk about the Rams. On their OLine right now, they have two 2nd rd, 4th rd, 6th rd, and a UDFA playing right now.
What are we doing?

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Translate that into the Win column please
We had most of those guys last year. Didn’t do much
We still had premium picks across the Oline the year before that.
Didn’t do much

I'll say it again. Drafting OLine is investing in the FUTURE. It's not a win now position. You're building you're team for future success.

No RB/WR/TE would have made a difference with our win/loss record last year as we just lack wayyyy too much talent across the board.

Let’s talk about the Rams. On their OLine right now, they have two 2nd rd, 4th rd, 6th rd, and a UDFA playing right now.
What are we doing?

The Rams have a legitimate QB as well. Kind of important piece you're just glossing over. They're also one of the best drafting franchises in the NFL.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

What the saints really need on D is a pass rush and a NT, that will fix most of the defensive issues.

The offense needs a tight end, possesion WR, and some guards.

If any of these are BPA when we pick, its pretty easy.

Yeah all we need is edges who can pass rush, iDL who can stop the run, two safety's, and depth at LB.

Our defense might be in worse shape than our offense.

 

[TruSaint]

Yeah all we need is edges who can pass rush, iDL who can stop the run, two safety's, and depth at LB.

Our defense might be in worse shape than our offense.

Agreed, it does all start with the line play, a good dline makes life easier on the LBs and DBs. But i agree.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Agreed, it does all start with the line play, a good dline makes life easier on the LBs and DBs. But i agree.

It's incredibly disheartening the amount of draft capital we have spent on the DLine only for it to remain a huge problem.

 

[TruSaint]

It's incredibly disheartening the amount of draft capital we have spent on the DLine only for it to remain a huge problem.

I'm cool with the Bresee pick, but Davenport, Turner and Foskey. oof.

Davenport had promise, Turner actually had all the tools, he could have been good actually, he had the highest pass rush win rate of all rookie DE's that year, but Foskey, dude has always been stiff as a board. Maybe if we swapped to a 3-4 there would be some hope, IDK though.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

I'm cool with the Bresee pick, but Davenport, Turner and Foskey. oof.

Bresee has been a disappointment for me this year. I understand on paper his stats look nice but his neither his play against the run and pass rush win rate are at acceptable levels.

Majority of his sacks came from stunts and coverage sacks. I can't remember the last time he beat his man with a move.

Hopefully he's able to improve as his career goes on, by no means is he at his ceiling.

Foskey on the other hand... just unbelievable how awful of a pick that was. Maybe the worst pick in the last 10 years for the Saints. Branch was RIGHT THERE.

 

[DaveXA]

Translate that into the Win column please
We had most of those guys last year. Didn’t do much
We still had premium picks across the Oline the year before that.
Didn’t do much

Let’s talk about the Rams. On their OLine right now, they have two 2nd rd, 4th rd, 6th rd, and a UDFA playing right now.
What are we doing?

Maybe try getting a real HC?