With the 9th Pick in the 2025 draft, who should the Saints select? (merged) (7 Viewers)

[BBarnes]

Or we could get one back in round one that can be a game changer! I remember so well when we had Ingram and Kamara (the early years) and they dominated the field and gave our receivers easier catches

Again, never said don’t do that. Just said we don’t have to do it at 9.

Also, all I was saying is let’s say you have your position of needs as 1) Edge 2) DL 3) IOL, 4) Safety 5) RB. You should have the top player at each position rated and then take the highest one. That’s BPA and targeting an area of need. This other guy just made an assumption that anyone said don’t take BPA. It was his misinterpretation.

And if anyone thinks that he’s the only game changing RB in this draft they don’t study the college game enough. NO, I’m not saying that’s you at all. I’m just saying.

He’s absolutely not and it’s not even a known fact that he’ll be the best RB to come out this draft.

 

[jboss]

Again, you target BPA at your highest position of need first and work from there.

We can agree to disagree. It’s ok that you don’t get it.

I'd say that's how bad teams tend to draft but we clearly disagree there. No need to be a baby about it lol

 

[BBarnes]

I'd say that's how bad teams tend to draft but we clearly disagree there. No need to be a baby about it lol

Ok man, never even noticed you before. I clearly don’t care enough or value your opinion enough to act like a baby. It was just clearing up your misinterpretation. My apologizes for helping you to understand.

Let me try this block feature out. They say it works well. Lol

 

[madsaint1967]

Fuaga shut down Micah and Myles in his rookie year. That's about as good as you could possibly hope for as a rookie LT. There's zero reason to believe he cannot be our LT for the next decade plus.

Correct, the “tailored off” he referred to was due to an injury that he played through.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Again, never said don’t do that. Just said we don’t have to do it at 9.

Fine. Trade back 1 spot with the Bears and take him.

This notion is absolutely silly. The entire point of drafting in the 1st round, especially the top 15 picks is to take a franchise player that can carry the team to some significant degree. Just because above average RB's are found in later rounds every now and then doesn't mean franchise ones are as if RB is some kind of candy isle. We're not going to skip taking a franchise QB in the top 10 just because some were drafted in the 5th round at some point.

Look no further then the 2018 draft. Only 1 RB in that draft is relevant today, and he dang near came close to breaking the rushing record. And he just so happened to be drafted 2nd overall.

The idea of "you don't take X position until X amount of picks as passed" is absolutely silly. I don't care if the player is a Center and he's a human version of King Kong blowing everyone over you take em.

I swear some people are so incredibly stuck in the past its silly. We don't have an elite QB anymore. We gotta have someone who can carry the offense and Kamara won't be able to do it any longer as early as this season, and most likely not at all the season after.

 

[St. Geezy]

You literally just said it. Bad organizations draft need over value.

I think the disconnect with this entire conversation is that it is being almost straw-manned into a “Should you draft any RB in the top 10,” or “a RB in general” if you’re a team with our needs.

To me, the focus needs to be on the specific scenario of “If this player grades out extremely high, like generational back high, do you take him at 9?”

If that’s the case and he’s the best available player on your board, you run to the podium and worry about the other needs later.

And that’s another thing, why are so many people speaking as though the team will only have one single opportunity to address other needs this off-season (and next for that matter), and that only opportunity is going to come at pick 9 of this specific draft?

Hell, by the time we get to the draft, for all we know, a free agency period signing may take drafting a RB completely off the table regardless of anything. And conversely, we may go into draft night without a single obvious need at all. We just don’t know.

 

[St. Widge]

I think the disconnect with this entire conversation is that it is being almost straw-manned into a “Should you draft any RB in the top 10,” or “a RB in general” if you’re a team with our needs.

To me, the focus needs to be on the specific scenario of “If this player grades out extremely high, like generational back high, do you take him at 9?”

If that’s the case and he’s the best available player on your board, you run to the podium and worry about the other needs later.

And that’s another thing, why are so many people speaking as though the team will only have one single opportunity to address other needs this off-season (and next for that matter), and that only opportunity is going to come at pick 9 of this specific draft?

Hell, by the time we get to the draft, for all we know, a free agency period signing may take drafting a RB completely off the table regardless of anything.

I agree with the premise, but that premise also applies to RBs. People are acting as though the team will only have one single opportunity to address RB in the off-season other than the #9 pick in this draft.

If you think Jeanty is a generational back, I get why you think he is a no brainer pick at #9.

But if you think he's just the best RB in this draft but not a generational talent, then there is room for debate whether that is worth the #9 pick. I think he's a very good back, but I'm not convinced that he is a generational back based on what I have seen and I think there are a lot of RBs in this draft that could come close to his level of production. If I am right in my evaluation of him, and I admittedly could be wrong, then he might not be the BPA at #9 and, if he is BPA he likely wouldn't be the best value at #9.

If he's not a generational RB, then I think you get more value by trading down, getting some more draft pick and a player lower in the draft because there will be other backs available later in the draft that could come close to, or even match his production. If you can't trade down, and he is BPA, I guess you have to take him, but that would not be the best scenario for this team.

You finally get a top 10 draft pick and you have to use it on a position that you can get similar production from late in the 1st, the 2nd round, or even 3rd round. I just can't get out of my head that 3 of the top 5 RBs in the NFL, maybe more after that, were not drafted in the 1st round and one of those that was drafted in the 1st round, isn't playing for the team that drafted them. And, the guy that might be the best RB to ever play for the Saints, a guy that Jeanty might not even be better than, was drafted in the 3rd round.

 

[jboss]

I think the disconnect with this entire conversation is that it is being almost straw-manned into a “Should you draft any RB in the top 10,” or “a RB in general” if you’re a team with our needs.

To me, the focus needs to be on the specific scenario of “If this player grades out extremely high, like generational back high, do you take him at 9?”

If that’s the case and he’s the best available player on your board, you run to the podium and worry about the other needs later.

And that’s another thing, why are so many people speaking as though the team will only have one single opportunity to address other needs this off-season (and next for that matter), and that only opportunity is going to come at pick 9 of this specific draft?

Hell, by the time we get to the draft, for all we know, a free agency period signing may take drafting a RB completely off the table regardless of anything.

It's our first top ten pick in a long time so I get why all the focus is on it. I also see why people don't like Jeanty at 9, whether they don't think he'll be the best guy there or any back is worth a pick that high. To me this is a more top heavy draft so 9 is an important pick for us. Gotta go with who the best guy overall there.

Not only as a general philosophy but also where this team is. Yea we have a lot of needs because this team is at the beginning of a rebuild. The identity we've had for the past 20 years is gone. To me just filling gaps in the roster based on where we're at now isn't gonna help us in the long run.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I agree with the premise, but that premise also applies to RBs. People are acting as though the team will only have one single opportunity to address RB in the off-season other than the #9 pick in this draft.

If you think Jeanty is a generational back, I get why you think he is a no brainer pick at #9.

But if you think he's just the best RB in this draft but not a generational talent, then there is room for debate whether that is worth the #9 pick. I think he's a very good back, but I'm not convinced that he is a generational back based on what I have seen and I think there are a lot of RBs in this draft that could come close to his level of production. If I am right in my evaluation of him, and I admittedly could be wrong, then he might not be the BPA at #9 and, if he is BPA he likely wouldn't be the best value at #9.

If he's not a generational RB, then I think you get more value by trading down, getting some more draft pick and a player lower in the draft because there will be other backs available later in the draft that could come close to, or even match his production. If you can't trade down, and he is BPA, I guess you have to take him, but that would not be the best scenario for this team.

You finally get a top 10 draft pick and you have to use it on a position that you can get similar production from late in the 1st, the 2nd round, or even 3rd round. I just can't get out of my head that 3 of the top 5 RBs in the NFL, maybe more after that, were not drafted in the 1st round and one of those that was drafted in the 1st round, isn't playing for the team that drafted them. And, the guy that might be the best RB to ever play for the Saints, a guy that Jeanty might not even be better than, was drafted in the 3rd round.

I think size matters, and I'd like us to get back to that Parcells Philosphy of big people beat up little people. I prefer Hampton @ 6'1 220 not only for size but how that size helps in pass protection. AK is our 2nd best pass blocking back, Williams was #1 and he's likely cut during the off-season. So you truly need to draft a complete back. I'd be good w/ Jeanty @9 but, I'm of the same line of thinking. Trading back and accumulating an extra 2nd or 3rd and perhaps another pick in 2026 would be more ideal.

 

[madsaint1967]

It's our first top ten pick in a long time so I get why all the focus is on it. I also see why people don't like Jeanty at 9, whether they don't think he'll be the best guy there or any back is worth a pick that high. To me this is a more top heavy draft so 9 is an important pick for us. Gotta go with who the best guy overall there.

Not only as a general philosophy but also where this team is. Yea we have a lot of needs because this team is at the beginning of a rebuild. The identity we've had for the past 20 years is gone. To me just filling gaps in the roster based on where we're at now isn't gonna help us in the long run.

I remember a year we had the #2 pick and took a RB. Now, we might of had a lot of other luck but it worked out pretty good.

 

[jboss]

I remember a year we had the #2 pick and took a RB. Now, we might of had a lot of other luck but it worked out pretty good.

Man I remember how exciting that was when we got him. Everybody thought he was a near lock for Houston to take him. Little did we know that time was the beginning of the Saints golden age.

 

[Bayou_City]

Man I remember how exciting that was when we got him. Everybody thought he was a near lock for Houston to take him. Little did we know that time was the beginning of the Saints golden age.

Jets was gonna give us 2 first and their 2nd....we should've took it.

 

[DSnfla]

Even that is subjective speculation and not objective fact. Lot's of Heisman trophy winners and projected 1st round picks have been out performed at the NFL level by non-Heisman winners and 3rd round or later picks.

Would you say that Kamara was not as talented as the RB's drafted in the first and second round the year Kamara was drafted?

It's all subjective speculation which is why it's so weird to me that so many people seem so confident they know how successful or not any college player will be in the NFL. Nothing about the future can ever be known. We can only ever speculate and guess about the future. Even when the future turns out as we speculated and guessed, we still just speculated and guessed.

Most draft picks are not just guesses they are EDUCATED guesses based on many things and based on percentages. It's not like teams are throwing darts at players pictures on a wall

 

[JackDiesel]

Again, never said don’t do that. Just said we don’t have to do it at 9.

Also, all I was saying is let’s say you have your position of needs as 1) Edge 2) DL 3) IOL, 4) Safety 5) RB. You should have the top player at each position rated and then take the highest one. That’s BPA and targeting an area of need. This other guy just made an assumption that anyone said don’t take BPA. It was his misinterpretation.

And if anyone thinks that he’s the only game changing RB in this draft they don’t study the college game enough. NO, I’m not saying that’s you at all. I’m just saying.

He’s absolutely not and it’s not even a known fact that he’ll be the best RB to come out this draft.

So in your mind what if the best player available at your number one need is ranked worse than the best player available at your fifth ranked need?