For anyone who says Carr is just a stat padder and don’t win: (1 Viewer)

[Pkessling]

Jackson Dart looked really good last night. Wouldn’t mind him mid round but suspect he will go earlier than the experts expect.

 

[Stinkers]

How many playoff appearances has he had in his career?

Why don't you do your own research and see what the Raiders defense was ranked in each year he was there. I can tell you this, they were never ranked higher than about 22nd in the league and in a few seasons they were 30-32nd. It's a team game.

 

[Stinkers]

And the Raiders got screwed out of a victory in that game. They should've won.

Yup the "inadvertent whistle" game. Total BS

 

[Stinkers]

Again its a TEAM GAME, like you said. Maybe if we wanted to start pinning wins and losses on a single player, we can blame the Clown (hmmm was it Adebo?) That grabbed an Atlanta receiver halfway down the field for a 35 yard penalty to set up their game winning FG. Or maybe blame Grupe in those games where he kept shanking FGs all game? Or remember how many times the offense got a lead only to watch the defense leave guys wide open downfield to blow a game?
Yeah but let's put it all on the QB1 for every loss

 

[Stinkers]

He's also not the top of our solutions either. He's a waste of time. Rather develop Rattler and keep drafting QBs until we find one.

OK, So this years excuse is OL and WR. Last years was Pete Carmichael. What's next years annual Derek Carr excuse going to be? He never wins but always has an excuse.

Or you can learn football before typing.

 

[44slayer]

The Dennis Defenders are now the Derek Defenders.

Defending the below average, one investment at a time.

 

[Kingston]

There’s obviously a lot of impact on wins and losses by the QB as they have more impact than any other position on the field, but I do agree it still is a team game and not solely on the QB.

Digging deeper into that Eagles game. It was at home. We scored only 12 points. We had pretty much our entire roster (or key players) healthy for that game. Our defense played great. Carr threw for 142 yards. Which I believe may have been our lowest output of the year, had 1 touchdown, 1 interception, and a QB Rating of 69.1 in that game. Our defense held an excellent Eagles team to 15 points and Carr couldn’t help lead us to a win. That’s not good enough.

But…. All that said Carr scored the go ahead TD on a decent drive with minimal time remaining. The defense failed to hold and got completely sauced on a blown coverage letting the Philly TE bust loose (at a point where their WR’s were knocked out of the game and we knew the TE was the only reliable weapon in the game).

Carr didn’t play great that day but he put us in position to win that game …. the defense failed in that moment.

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[Treybad]

Sound like a home team baseball stats guy.... looking for anything to make the player or team appear good..... although 14-13 is not a stat I would be posting.....

 

[tyler735]

But…. All that said Carr scored the go ahead TD on a decent drive with minimal time remaining. The defense failed to hold and got completely sauced on a blown coverage letting the Philly TE bust loose (at a point where their WR’s were knocked out of the game and we knew the TE was the only reliable weapon in the game).

Carr didn’t play great that day but he put us in position to win that game …. the defense failed in that moment.

Carr having one decent drive after the Saints defense put up 3.5 great quarters of play doesn’t really equal out. Just because Carr “gave us a chance” to win after the defense held the Eagles to 8 points (at the time), doesn’t mean we forget about Carr’s subpar play for the other 3.5 quarters. His play put us in a position to have such tight margins to work with where the defense needed a near perfect game to allow Carr to “have a chance” while he was doing nothing for most of the game.

 

[sfidc3]

The Dennis Defenders are now the Derek Defenders.

Defending the below average, one investment at a time.

I guess I'm an outlier, an anomaly......

I wanted DA fired after the 1st disaster of a season.....BUT, on the other hand I think Carr was the best option (as a "bridge" QB for a few years until we draft or find one) at the time......

I still think he is far from the biggest problem with the team.....and would be fine with him starting next year but we will see what happens....

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Or you can learn football before typing.

Same to you. You seem to be lost in Derek Carr excuse land.

 

[tinman]

When will people stop this RIDICULOUS practice of assigning the winning or losing of a game only to the QB? It' the most totally inaccurate way of thinking in sports. the QB does NOT play defense. If the offense is 60/40 split passing and running the QB is HANDING the ball off 40% of the time
C'mon man you're smarter than that

The QB will get all the credit for winning & sharing blame in a loss.
Brady thanks them.

 

[DaveXA]

Sound like a home team baseball stats guy.... looking for anything to make the player or team appear good..... although 14-13 is not a stat I would be posting.....

Stafford took longer to get to a SB than Carr has had a career and their numbers were strikingly similar until he went to the Rams and won a SB.

I'm not saying Carr will do the same, but Carr hasn't played on a very good to great team yet. If he had the weapons of say KC or Buffalo, he'd have top 5 numbers.

That said, without a top 10 defense, Carr isn't gonna win much more than half his games. He's not a QB that can carry a team like the Mahomes and Allen's of the world, but he can do what guys like Eli Manning and similar QBs do.

He's an above average qb who has most played on below average teams like Stafford did for many years.