Pat Kirwan said he heard Carr didn’t want to do Saints contract restructure (168 Viewers)

[dataussie]

The 24 hour news cycle and social media will be humanity's downfall, I swear.

will be ?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

It’s has positives though. To the second news updates more than just sports too. The biggest issue is people’s ego’s get inflated when they aren’t speaking directly in front of the person they’re communicating with.

Not without its positives for sure.

One of the biggest negatives to me is it allows many folks to say nasty things to another only because they have the protection of relative anonymity and without getting smacked in the face. Things they’d never say in person lol.

Also it has made folks judge their entire existence on how many likes or follows they can get. Utterly disgusting but alas I’m just an old man screaming at the sky.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

If he wanted out. He would of cut a deal and got out. He didn't.

Carr is 34 years old and probably missing any chance of real post season glory at this point staying with us.

So, if Carr was itching that badly to be a FA. Either he's a coward that bit his tongue or it's not true. I'm more willing to believe that it's not true.

He has no incentive at this point of his career to be loyal to a situation that he didn't want to be in to finish his career.

I believe that he doesn’t want to be here, but he doesn’t want to give up his guaranteed money either.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

get me far away from the place that wants to pay me 30M per year. id rather flip burgers for $5.00 per hour at a fan friendly burger joint. Makes sense

Get $10.00/hour working at Chipotle.

 

[Stinkers]

Uh oh, Derek's alleged brother twice removed, 'stinkers' is back clowning posts!

Keep posting clown posts and I'll keep clowning them.

 

[St. Widge]

You guys really see us going either with draft pick + Rattler or random unwanted FA QB + Rattler this year?

It has nothing to do with who I wanted to start at QB. Frankly, since we already did the restructure, I'm fine with Carr starting at QB and I don't think we have a better option. But it doesn't change the fact that Carr apparently would rather play somewhere else. Frankly, I would have thought that the people who have always supported Carr starting would be happy since Moore agrees that he is the best option to start this year.

 

[St. Geezy]

Not without its positives for sure.

One of the biggest negatives to me is it allows many folks to say nasty things to another only because they have the protection of relative anonymity and without getting smacked in the face. Things they’d never say in person lol.

Also it has made folks judge their entire existence on how many likes or follows they can get. Utterly disgusting but alas I’m just an old man screaming at the sky.

It’s not so bad here…Twitter on the other hand. Woof.

It’s gotten BAD.

 

[Rexman100]

Get $10.00/hour working at Chipotle.

Chipotle’s corporate national manager is following this thread, and he texted me that he’s going to hire DC4 to be their national spokesman for 50M per year. That way, when Carr finally leaves NOLA, he can flip the fans off with both hands.

 

[St. Widge]

Other players have wanted out and demanded a trade. They have threatened to sit out to do so. Some reason Carr is trapped though? If it made no sense then it wouldn't be done. I'll let you consider why it's in the teams best interest to move on and why they usually meet the players demands. They even had to start penalizing players because it was too powerful a move.

If he doesn't want to be here, he can force their hand. The logical reasoning is that he was exploring a trade (Loomis probably too at one point). Moore decided he wanted to keep Carr. They talked and decided to go another year then restructured.

You get the same headlines from reporters wanting to make their noise but the reality isnt as exciting and actually makes sense. All they have to say is "technically at one point he was looking other places", same cya stuff as usual.

Again, believe what you want. But these aren't click bait headlines. These are stories from real journalists that didn't even use them as headlines to sell anything. None of the five have any reason to make this story up. But you can choose to not believe it.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

The point of sitting out is to force a trade. It's greatly in the Saints interest to get something for him at that point.

You call him a Pro on one side and a guy who gets blind side trapped by a restructure on the other.

These people are business men with agents. Be more realistic.

I'll admit your right if he sits out. Otherwise this is more offseason teen drama among delusional fans.

I’d argue that anyone (myself included) who gets worked up about grown men playing a game for multi millions, is a delusional person who enjoys drama to begin with.

I’ve no dog in this fight as I couldn’t care less who’s right or wrong, and don’t claim to be on the right side….having said that it’s literally a fan forum for folks to discuss all things about their favorite wrestler, errr football team.

It’s all entertainment and it is the literal purpose of the board. Fan how ya want to, whether that be a middle or the road fella or fellette, or an extreme sunshine pumper, or an extreme Debbie downer.

 

[JackDiesel]

i really feel bad for Carr. I hope he's not on this forum.......Some peeps on here are pretty harsh!

I don't anymore. I always took the Chipotle stuff as just giving him a hard time but this dudes gone out of his way to earn his reputation.

If he was a pro then this stuff wouldn't have gotten out, it has because he wants it to. The whole family feeds off drama. It was fun at first but the schtick is old.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Again, believe what you want. But these aren't click bait headlines. These are stories from real journalists that didn't even used them as headlines to sell anything. None of the five have any reason to make this story up. But you can choose to not believe it.

Biggest curiosity to me is the folks who are outraged when others see something from a different point of view. To your last, exactly as it should be imo. No reason for folks to throw ad hominems in, to bash others etc.

Baffles my mind when I see that lol. I also pray for em and hope they find some semblance of happiness in their lives.

 

[St. Widge]

Underhill and Triplet both built up sources while they were both working for other outlets. I think those sources carried over when they when they branched out on their own. An entirely new coaching staff this year and slow changes to the roster have probably eliminated most of their direct connections.

As negative as they've been about the Saints for the past couple of months, I doubt the new regime is going to share anything with either of them that they could negatively spin. I have a feeling that they are both going to be on the outside looking in a lot more from now on.

Also, players don't have complete information on most of team business, so a single player isn't the best source of information. I don't get the impression that any sports reporter looks for multiple corroborating sources before they post things on the internet.

They both have connections with agents and people outside of the Saints organization that are local, including Matt Bowers who is on the Superdome Commission. They also still have connections in the scouting department and with players. If you don't want to believe the story fine, but it's not just Underhill and Tripp reporting it, it's also 3 national guys who have their own sources.

I swear that these days people are more likely to believe conspiracy theories with no evidence or sources than they are to believe actual news reports from actual journalists with multiple sources.

 

[Chuck McGill Esq.]

Again, believe what you want. But these aren't click bait headlines. These are stories from real journalists that didn't even used them as headlines to sell anything. None of the five have any reason to make this story up. But you can choose to not believe it.

A lot of people get their feelings hurt with any news stories that can be interpreted to paint Derek Carr in a negative light.

 

[IlovemySaints]

Treat it how you want, but this is now the fourth or fifth person to report this or something similar. Florio, Breer, Underhill/Triplett, and Kirwin all have reported similar things. Apparently Carr preferred to be cut or traded and was willing to waive his no trade clause. The Saints asked him to take a pay cut but he refused and indicated that he would rather go. But, Moore wants him to start at least this year so the Saints did the standard restructure which they can do without his consent. I can't swear that the details are correct but 4 to 5 sources have now reported something similar so it seems pretty clear that Carr doesn't really want to be here and he's here because Moore wanted him as his starter this year. I'm sure Carr will still play his best, but it appears that he would rather be playing some place else.

So Carmichael in a nutshell lol