A microcosm of Winston’s career (1 Viewer)

[Heathen Saint]

Thought this was interesting

https://fb.watch/ojqHzkeXbg/?mibextid=N7dtgh

 

[jahsoul357]

This is why these arguments are so stupid.

Carr was over mid-field when he got hurt and driving. Who knows if he gets a couple of TDs late in the game. He's done that multiple other times this year with slow starts. It's impossible to know how the game plays out one way or the other.

You guys want hero ball that leads to winning 4 games a year but looks cool. Okay, that's not what you are going to get. So why are people still arguing?

Carr was over mid-field twice before that with only 3 points to show but that is not even addressing what I said.

3 points with 0TDs/0 INTS in 2 1/2 quarters will always look better than 16 points and 2TDs/2INTs in 1 1/2 to some, for their reasons.

People are spending more time talking about interceptions and not the fact that we only had 3 points in 2 1/2 quarters.


And let's be honestly, would we even need hero ball if we weren't down 24 points halfway through the 3rd?

 

[Heathen Saint]

I don't disagree, but at this point would like to see a change at QB. This offense with Carr at the helm can't score against a quality defense, same with Dalton last year......

I'd even be cool with TH7 taking the job, he may survive without a serious injury for half a season.....might.....maybe.....

But I fear the only way DA sits Carr is if Carr physically can't play.....

Agreed. DA’s going to try to justify that 150 million dollar decision and we’re riding this pony into the ground

 

[Rexman100]

I don't disagree, but at this point would like to see a change at QB. This offense with Carr at the helm can't score against a quality defense, same with Dalton last year......

I'd even be cool with TH7 taking the job, he may survive without a serious injury for half a season.....might.....maybe.....

But I fear the only way DA sits Carr is if Carr physically can't play.....

RIDDLE, I copy pasted an article and removed the names, which QB is this article speaking about?

ARTICLE
Quarterback <insert Qb name> is arguably the most polarizing player in the NFL.
At his best, He is one of the best quarterbacks in the league with the unique combination of a cannon for an arm and mobility. When he's not at his best, though, he becomes extremely turnover-prone and can often cost games by trying to play hero ball.
The bad version as shown up far more than the good one.
After the game, coach didn't exactly give his quarterback a ringing endorsement.
"I think he's played well at times and then at times he hasn't and you can't turn the ball over. So, we've got to figure that out,"
He has always been a boom or bust player, but the busts have been far more noticeable

 

[jahsoul357]

RIDDLE, I copy pasted an article and removed the names, which QB is this article speaking about?

ARTICLE
Quarterback <insert Qb name> is arguably the most polarizing player in the NFL.
At his best, He is one of the best quarterbacks in the league with the unique combination of a cannon for an arm and mobility. When he's not at his best, though, he becomes extremely turnover-prone and can often cost games by trying to play hero ball.
The bad version as shown up far more than the good one.
After the game, coach didn't exactly give his quarterback a ringing endorsement.
"I think he's played well at times and then at times he hasn't and you can't turn the ball over. So, we've got to figure that out,"
He has always been a boom or bust player, but the busts have been far more noticeable

Is this early Josh Allen?

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Yes, I do not believe that applies to me and I appreciate the clarification.

It's all good fam...I think I know what's going on here....we're all snippy at each other because we're all mad that we've been lied to.

 

[SWJJ]

RIDDLE, I copy pasted an article and removed the names, which QB is this article speaking about?

ARTICLE
Quarterback <insert Qb name> is arguably the most polarizing player in the NFL.
At his best, He is one of the best quarterbacks in the league with the unique combination of a cannon for an arm and mobility. When he's not at his best, though, he becomes extremely turnover-prone and can often cost games by trying to play hero ball.
The bad version as shown up far more than the good one.
After the game, coach didn't exactly give his quarterback a ringing endorsement.
"I think he's played well at times and then at times he hasn't and you can't turn the ball over. So, we've got to figure that out,"
He has always been a boom or bust player, but the busts have been far more noticeable

fARVE?

 

[Brandon13]

It's all good fam...I think I know what's going on here....we're all snippy at each other because we're all mad that we've been lied to.

Imo this Jameis versus Carr stuff is mostly irrelevant and a distraction from our actual main issue which is Allen followed by Carmichael.

Neither Jameis nor Carr are good enough in and of themselves to win with our subpar coaching and so it just doesn't even really matter either way.

 

[Rexman100]

Carr was over mid-field twice before that with only 3 points to show but that is not even addressing what I said.


People are spending more time talking about interceptions and not the fact that we only had 3 points in 2 1/2 quarters.


And let's be honestly, would we even need hero ball if we weren't down 24 points halfway through the 3rd?

ONE GIANT FACT is not being recognized. Minn was buzzing with enthusiasm and confidence at Home and their opening play demonstrated it. The Saints D could not match the opposing offenses intensity. There was a point early on that we had Dobbs almost sacked which would've ended their drive. However, he was able to scramble and luckily convert the drive that led to a TD. At this point, we were screwed, for the first half, as they continued to pile on points. Around the 4th quarter Minns energy finally dissipated because they felt the game was over. The Saints rallied the troops in this brief window. Carr or JW could've been the general in this scenerio, not becasue they are so great, but because our D was finally able to get stops. And thats the fact being left out.

 

[Infoman]

Imo this Jameis versus Carr stuff is mostly irrelevant and a distraction from our actual main issue which is Allen followed by Carmichael.

Neither Jameis nor Carr are good enough in and of themselves to win with our subpar coaching and so it just doesn't even really matter either way.

Agreed... there is only one QB on the roster that can force this coaching staff to change they way the game is called and played... and force us to be a run first team and dictate to the opposing defenses' coverage and fronts... #7.

 

[jahsoul357]

No QB is good enough in and of themselves to win with our subpar coaching and so it just doesn't even really matter either way.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Brandon13]

Agreed... there is only one QB on the roster that can force this coaching staff to change they way the game is called and played... and force us to be a run first team and dictate to the opposing defenses' coverage and fronts... #7.

I'd be cool with giving it a shot.. I don't think he could overcome the coaching either, but what exactly do we have to lose anyway?

 

[Brandon13]

Fixed that for you.

Peyton Manning maybe who would say give me the reins and get out of the way.

 

[Rexman100]

Is this early Josh Allen?

NO. its last Sundays Josh Allen. Their fanbase is mind-effed and divided just like our own fanbase. As a Saints fan, its a rarity to have this dilemma. Our past Qbs were easily judged through their own lack of ability. But to have a guy with the ability, but also risky, is hard to quantify. The NFL is a business selling dopeamine in the form of excitement. Josh Allen and JW deliver the dopeamine, but are pulled over by the cops for driving dirty right after. (By the way, nice job guessing correctly)

 

[Infoman]

I'd be cool with giving it a shot.. I don't think he could overcome the coaching either, but what exactly do we have to lose anyway?

Possibly... but he's the only QB on the roster with the physical capabilities and "gravity" to change the defense's we face, the plays that can be called, and create off schedule with his legs to produce game changing big plays and momentum shifts... every number known to football says... Taysom is the answer.