A microcosm of Winston’s career (1 Viewer)

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DSnfla said:
Brother, you have a revisionist memory. While DB did throw a few maybe game-sealing picks and some were not his fault he did NOT throw plenty. Let's not try and fault with DB to make it seam like he and JW are from the same planet LOL
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I don't know if you know this brother, but JW really don't have a lot of game sealing turnovers..lol.
And technically, him and Winston are on the same planet. Earth, my friend, Earth. lol. But I'm not comparing them but I've seen Drew ended his fair share of games with a turnover. Sadly, his career ended on that. :cry:
 
jahsoul357 said:
Actually, that first TD was a great throw and a greater catch. When you look, he put it in the only spot a play could be made and only Olave had a chance. And that's a pass he has made plenty. When Drew threw the same pass, we praised the accuracy. Crazy how things are seen differently depending on who performs the action. Now the pass the AT was NUTS...haha.

But truth is, the game probably went a lot different if we went back to the run but we can talk about JW doing JW things but being down 27-3, what options did we have? Again, we should have started running more when it became a 1 possession game but at this point, what's done is done. We can talk about what he should have had in terms of picks but crap, we should have had more than 3 points before he came in down 24. Not you exactly, but there are a lot of people that got more energy regarding 2 interceptions than they do the fact we were halfway through the 3rd with only a FG. Again, if we would have went back to the run, I believe we win that game.
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Maybe , but we for sure lose with the 2 untimely picks JW threw ESPECIALLY the last one. Can you not see that is VINTAGE JW. A BONEHEAD throw into TRIPLE coverage with 2 mins left in a ONE score game LOL
 
jahsoul357 said:
I don't know if you know this brother, but JW really don't have a lot of game sealing turnovers..lol.
And technically, him and Winston are on the same planet. Earth, my friend, Earth. lol. But I'm not comparing them but I've seen Drew ended his fair share of games with a turnover. Sadly, his career ended on that. :cry:
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Sorry just like I always say ( And you agree when it's JW involved ) INTs are not all the QBs fault. In the last game DB played 2 of those 3 picks were not his fault WRs should have made the catch . Go back and watch
 
jahsoul357 said:
I don't know if you know this brother, but JW really don't have a lot of game sealing turnovers..lol.
And technically, him and Winston are on the same planet. Earth, my friend, Earth. lol. But I'm not comparing them but I've seen Drew ended his fair share of games with a turnover. Sadly, his career ended on that. :cry:
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Ok , go find them, I'll bet it's lest than 5
 
DSnfla said:
Ok , go find them, I'll bet it's lest than 5
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Really...dang man...haha. It's not less than 5, at all. But let's just leave it alone because it is besides the point. Like I said, I saw Drew throw game sealing picks and had game sealing fumbles. It's a part of the game. Not once did I say that it was the norm and it isn't the norm with JW (unless you want to push a narrative). I'm just saying that we have more people getting caught up in the interceptions instead of what got us to that point in the first place.
 
jahsoul357 said:
Really...dang man...haha. It's not less than 5, at all. But let's just leave it alone because it is besides the point. Like I said, I saw Drew throw game sealing picks and had game sealing fumbles. It's a part of the game. Not once did I say that it was the norm and it isn't the norm with JW (unless you want to push a narrative). I'm just saying that we have more people getting caught up in the interceptions instead of what got us to that point in the first place.
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But when you make a statement like that that I think is inaccurate, Of course I'm gonna say prove it or say you're just guessing because you saw it once or twice. And the issue is that it took 2 amazing catches to get us there with at least one of them being a prayer pass. Sorry you need to watch the 22 film JW passed up OPEN WRs to make 2 stupid throws that were picked, plus others
 
DSnfla said:
But when you make a statement like that that I think is inaccurate, Of course I'm gonna say prove it or say you're just guessing because you saw it once or twice. And the issue is that it took 2 amazing catches to get us there with at least one of them being a prayer pass. Sorry you need to watch the 22 film JW passed up OPEN WRs to make 2 stupid throws that were picked, plus others
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*sigh*
Off the top of my head, the NFC Championship against the Rams in OT, that Cowboys game in 2018, a 49ers game during one of those 7-9 seasons (a fumble in OT), one of those low scoring Bucs games, and a Falcons game when he threw an interception in the end zone. You said I couldn't pick 5 but I'm pretty sure of these...lol. I can verify tho...

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Yep...confirmed.
-2018 NFC Championship in OT
-2018 Week 13 vs Cowboys
-2014 Week 10 vs 49ers (Fumble in OT)
-2016 Week 14 vs Bucs
-2017 Week 14 vs Falcons

And there is more. Drew is one of the best QBs to ever play the game but he was not perfect of infallible. He has lost us games and it's fine because he won us more. I've said before that many people built this image of Drew in their head that is without a spot or wrinkle..lol. We block out all of the bad things out to just remember the good. lol
 
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jahsoul357 said:
*sigh*
Off the top of my head, the NFC Championship against the Rams in OT, that Cowboys game in 2018, a 49ers game during one of those 7-9 seasons (a fumble in OT), one of those low scoring Bucs games, and a Falcons game when he threw an interception in the end zone. You said I couldn't pick 5 but I'm pretty sure of these...lol. I can verify tho...

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Yep...confirmed.
-2018 NFC Championship in OT
-2018 Week 13 vs Cowboys
-2014 Week 10 vs 49ers (Fumble in OT)
-2016 Week 14 vs Bucs
-2017 Week 14 vs Falcons

And there is more. Drew is one of the best QBs to ever play the game but he was not perfect of infallible. He has lost us games and it's fine because he won us more. I've said before that many people built this image of Drew in their head that is without a spot or wrinkle..lol. We block out all of the bad things out to just remember the good. lol
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Probably has to do with the fact that Drew has over 50 game winning drives and you know... Jameis doesn't.
 
Winston didn't complete the comeback in 1 1/2 quarters of play, down by ::checks notes:: 24 points (TWENTY FOUR) and people use it as a reason to say he stinks. Let that sink in. A lot of stupidity on this board.
 
donato said:
Winston didn't complete the comeback in 1 1/2 quarters of play, down by ::checks notes:: 24 points (TWENTY FOUR) and people use it as a reason to say he stinks. Let that sink in. A lot of stupidity on this board.
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Winston also couldn't preserve a 17-0 lead against Green Bay with 1 1/2 quarters to go, generating precisely ::checks notes:: 0 points (ZERO). Let that sink in. A lot of people forgetting to apply a uniform standard here.

Fact is, it's not all on the QBs, either of them. They are both significant factors in how the team performs when they're on the pitch, but it's them plus the OL plus the coaching, plus the rest of the team, that is not adding up to enough wins. The absolute need to pin things on one root cause is misplaced and simply feeding division and tribalism.
 
TribuneUK said:
Winston also couldn't preserve a 17-0 lead against Green Bay with 1 1/2 quarters to go, generating precisely ::checks notes:: 0 points (ZERO). Let that sink in. A lot of people forgetting to apply a uniform standard here.
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Damn, I almost forgot Winston played defense. I'm glad you reminded me that he gave up 18 points in the last 12 minutes of the 4th quarter.
 
Wheelo said:
Probably has to do with the fact that Drew has over 50 game winning drives and you know... Jameis doesn't.
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This isn't even really about Jameis and Drew and game winning drives, but if that is the road you want to take, a higher percentage of Winston's win total comes from GWDs (38% to Drew's 31%). But again, that's is neither here nor there. It is the fact that QBs lose games and Drew was never immune to that. Crap, let's be real, it is more smoke for the interception in this lost than the one to the Texans, for reasons.
TribuneUK said:
Winston also couldn't preserve a 17-0 lead against Green Bay with 1 1/2 quarters to go, generating precisely ::checks notes:: 0 points (ZERO). Let that sink in. A lot of people forgetting to apply a uniform standard here.
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That means that you should have equal or more energy for Grupe missing the FG that would have put us in the lead, right?
 

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