Unverified According to podcaster Timothy J Jones: Aaron Glenn wanted Mickey Loomis removed from GM position in order to take Saints job [mod edit] (97 Viewers)

[Elvis]

So I haven't paid attention to how the team has been run over the last 5 years?

And even if it did make sense, it doesn't mean it's true. And it only has legs because people want to believe it's true.

I don't know what you've done. But you sure are making a lot of assumptions about TJay and the motives of other posters here.

 

[football]

8 pages of some guy tweet. Wow.

 

[GR#58]

Gotta love the off-season

8 pages of some guy tweet. Wow.

 

[DerrickB]

I didn't say it had to be confirmed to be breaking news. But if none of your "breaking news" is ever confirmed, it means you don't have credibility when breaking news.

It doesn't have to be Underhill. It could be Kat Terrel, Luke Johnson, Bob Rose, Mike Tripplet, any Saints beat reports, a Jets beat reporter, Rappaport, or any national reporter. But nobody has confirmed it yet. And a reporter should have two sources that confirm before they report anything. Even Underhill admitted he made the mistake of a report without two confirming sources, and that he got used by someone close to Glenn, when they told him that Glenn didn't favor the Jets.

The thing is that Tjay isn't a reporter so he doesn't have to follow those rules. But, if another source, like those listed above confirm it, I'll give him credit and pay more attention in the future when he breaks news.

And what makes him more than a fan with a podcast?

You just confirmed what I just said. You named the Avengers of Saints Reporting. I think your preference is that the story confirms from traditional buttoned up journalist, and that's fine.

And maybe the rumor is true, but I don't think that puts the Saints in a bad light.

In regards to a fan with a podcast, TJay has gotten in rooms that I am striving to reach someday. I don't agree with most of his takes but he's done pretty well with what he has built.

 

[St. Widge]

I don't know what you've done. But you sure are making a lot of assumptions about TJay and the motives of other posters here.

I'd suggest that any regular poster on this board has payed a lot of attention to the moves Loomis has made over the last 5 years.

What assumptions am I making? The lines are clearly drawn regarding who wants to believe this and who is waiting for confirmation and they run along the lines of how badly each person wants Loomis gone and almost everyone wants a new GM.


The only assumption I'm making about TJay is that he hasn't broken news before so I'll wait for a more credible source to confirm it before I'll give it credence.

 

[football]

Gotta love the off-season

I forgot the guy name but someone tweeted about Antonio Brown with the team a few years back and people fell for it hard and took it as creditable source. It then turn out to be made up or over exaggerated. I remember a guy named Angry midget on twitter that people here reposted and it spiral hard as reliable source. There are a lot behind the scenes we fans don't know and sometimes it is best not knowing. But there are way more false informations that garner way more attentions than it needed to be. The world we live in.

 

[St. Widge]

You just confirmed what I just said. You named the Avengers of Saints Reporting. I think your preference is that the story confirms from traditional buttoned up journalist, and that's fine.

And maybe the rumor is true, but I don't think that puts the Saints in a bad light.

In regards to a fan with a podcast, TJay has gotten in rooms that I am striving to reach someday. I don't agree with most of his takes but he's done pretty well with what he has built.

Jets beat reporters and national NFL reporters are the Avengers of Saints reporting?

And yes, I do have a preference for actual journalists over people who don't answer to editors and who are really rewarded with clicks even if what they say doesn't turn out to be true.

You don't have to be one of those to have credibility. But, honestly, I haven't seen anyone on Twitter who isn't one of those that has gained credibility by being right. On the other hand, there are posters on this board that have proven to have credibly information including RebelMax and 60Minutes. And I don't usually agree with RebelMax's conclusions regarding the stuff that he gets, but he clearly has some inside sources. So, if he or 60Mintues said it was true, then I would give it more credibility despite it not coming from a traditional journalist.

Anyway, I agree with you that even if it is truly it doesn't necessarily put the Saints in a bad light.

 

[texasjefe]

I just found a second sauce to corroborate the rumor.



Hey it's the new thing. You wanna hire a head coach, they want to pick the GM. Maybe Glenn would've brought in Howie Roseman.

 

[Elvis]

What assumptions am I making? The lines are clearly drawn regarding who wants to believe this and who is waiting for confirmation and they run along the lines of how badly each person wants Loomis gone and almost everyone wants a new GM.


The only assumption I'm making about TJay is that he hasn't broken news before so I'll wait for a more credible source to confirm it before I'll give it credence.

The assumption you're making is that people that believe the story could be true only believe so because they dislike Loomis and want him gone. In reality, it's a dynamic that really could exist in the coaching search and it's worthy of discussion. We've seen the same thing play out with other teams, including the Jags literally yesterday, and it wouldn't be unprecedented for it to have happened here.

And your assumption about TJay is wild considering you admitted yourself that you don't even watch/listen to his podcast.

 

[St. Widge]

The assumption you're making is that people that believe the story could be true only believe so because they dislike Loomis and want him gone. In reality, it's a dynamic that really could exist in the coaching search and it's worthy of discussion. We've seen the same thing play out with other teams, including the Jags literally yesterday, and it wouldn't be unprecedented for it to have happened here.

And your assumption about TJay is wild considering you admitted yourself that you don't even watch/listen to his podcast.

But I do follow TJay's Twitter account and I have never seen him break any news. Is he only breaking news on his podcast? Does he actually break news on his podcast?

Anway, I'm done with this unless or until someone confirms that it's true or confirms that it is not true. If people want to speculate that this is true and it's somehow a black mark on the Saints then fine. But, it's far from even one of the top 10 reasons we should move on from Loomis even if it is true.

And, none of it really matters since Glenn wasn't coming here anyway and frankly, I didn't want him to get the job over several of the other candidates. If Glenn wants to have his friend as his GM, good for him and I hope he gets what he wants with the Jets. But, I'm glad that we aren't going to pair a guy that has no experience as a HC with a guy that is his friend and has no experience as a GM. Could work out for the Jets but it's a huge risk. If the GM is friends with the HC, who is going to hold the HC accountable?

 

[St. Widge]

I just found a second sauce to corroborate the rumor.



Hey it's the new thing. You wanna hire a head coach, they want to pick the GM. Maybe Glenn would've brought in Howie Roseman.

If you can't believe JoeyJetsX with his 4,000 followers, I don't know who you can believe.

 

[Elvis]

If the GM is friends with the HC, who is going to hold the HC accountable?

We still talking about Loomis?

 

[kennydfresh]

“Hey person who is hiring me. Let me replace you and I’ll take the job.”

He just saying what everybody on the board says everyday. I'm just happy he was bold enough to say it out out. I love it.

 

[60minutes]

Fake news. I repeat, fake news!

Now, there are a lot of things to sift through with the Glenn situation. From the onset, Glenn had the Jets and Saints at the top of his list and the situation was always fluid. There were some things from three years ago that made the situation in a slight bit disconcerting but Glenn was never unwilling to come to coach in New Orleans. I really wish I could say more about that but I just cannot--not publicly. Do coaches like to be in alignment with the GM? Yes, most do and it makes total sense. But Glenn did not request the Saints to fire Loomis or anything close to it.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Nope, you have no burden to prove anything in your post either. People will come to their own conclusions of credibility and plausibility on their own. This story, while not verified by the Saints or Glenn, only has legs because it makes sense to people who have paid attention to how the team has been run over the last 5 years.

No. It doesn't make sense in any way except to people who believe anything that appeals to their own previously determined conclusions.