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Isn't someone who tells lies a liar? If you don't believe me, ask Ray Comfort
In any case, there is a difference between scholars who want to provide evidence - no matter how strenuous - to confirm their bias (see Creation Museum, Jason Lisle, Ken Hovind, Berlinski , etc.), and scholars whose goal is to arrive at a point as close to reality as possible.
As I mentioned before, as time passes, more and more the Bible and its related artifacts go from truth to parable, from real to forgery. And it happens not because scholars want to prove a god exists, but because scholars and scientists what to arrive at a point as close to reality as possible.
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Please provide 3 mainsteam Biblical scholars that contradict those scholars. I'm curious how "easily" you can do it.
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I can provide you that list (there is something to say about what a "scholar" is, or even what's "mainstream", but that's another discussion).
The issue is not that they contradict them, but how they contradict them: their arguments usually boil down to pseudo-science and "it's a lie", with lots of Bible as recursive evidence.
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That's disappointing. Was genuinely interested in the debate.
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I have no desire to convert you to anything, and I'm not really sure where the existence of God came up between us (?). My comments in this thread had to do with why the Gospels are not considered to be eyewitnesses (which they never claim to be) and in general why the Bible shouldn't be taken at face value, and that these are mainstream positions among biblical scholarship. You said I was "parading untruths" and, if you didn't call me a liar you insinuated I was lying; I've provided evidence that I am not, so I'm happy to drop it here. Please believe what you want to believe, and follow your path where it takes you -- your faith is truly not my concern.
Otherwise, one of the things I love about Saints Report is that there can be mature discussion on different subjects, and members can hold completely contrary stances on some threads (particularly the PDB) while still finding common interests elsewhere. From other threads we've both participated in you honestly seem like a good guy, we just part ways in this regard, so I hope we can do the same.
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Hey! What's everyone's view on abortion?
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Isn't someone who tells lies a liar? If you don't believe me, ask Ray Comfort
Not really. I wouldnt call someone a liar unless I truly believe they are aware that what they are saying is false.
Someone can repeat a fact or opinion that they believe, but not know it is false. They would have stated a lie, but not really be a liar. There would be no attempt to deceive
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I am going to assume you don't know who Ray Comfort is, or what am I referencing.
For the record, the definition of liar is "a person who tells lies". There is no qualification to it, such as knowledge of what's told being false. But that's not why I posted that.
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So, David.
That Bible in your hand, the paper was made by humans. Likewise the ink, the binding, the typesetting. That book didn't simply appear, directly called into being by Yahweh Himself, correct?
That Bible in your hand, the paper was made by humans. Likewise the ink, the binding, the typesetting. That book didn't simply appear, directly called into being by Yahweh Himself, correct?
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I have just listened to something very interesting. On you tube there is a video entitled the mark of the beast... listen to the man who helped design it. He later became a Christian and now is going around the country warning people about it. He also talked about the one world government. Very interesting.
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Nope. Nope. Nope.
I'm not gonna do it.
Hope your health is better David.
I have to leave now.
I'm not gonna do it.
Hope your health is better David.
I have to leave now.
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Iron Maiden fan, eh??
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I trust your medical situation has improved?
You know, my little girls love unicorns. They play with unicorn figures all the time. They watch shows about them. They read books about them. They're old enough to understand that unicorns are fantastical creatures. But they're interested in unicorns and because they consume so much unicorn-related material, unicorns seem like they exist. And maybe they do.
The things we're most interested in, the things we consume the most are the most real to us.
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Not this sheet again
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