Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (3 Viewers)

[MLU]

You should have taken an 8 week vacation and then taken the new job.

I took my vacation and started at my new employer during vacation once when I found out they wouldn't pay out the vacation.

 

[SWJJ]

This is primarily an American issue. Many people lack the access to healthcare and even if you can afford to miss the pay, some people can't afford the doctor's copay, or payment towards deductible. People I know (in the service industry) have been urged by employers to come to work "if it's not too bad"

We do "work" and "healthcare" wrong and no one wants to talk about that.

My wife actually just texted me and this is happening at her office. The owners called the office manager (who is one of about 4 or 5 who actively has COVID) and told her she needed to be up there in the office putting out fires.



We are ridiculous.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Can we agree that employers in general should give paid sick leave - for most illnesses? I don't want someone coming to work with the flu, COVID, a norovirus, whatever. Being sick sucks. It's also, not great from a worker productivity standpoint.

That will take changing the American mindset (which is happening)

For decades it was ingrained “tough it out, you’re going to let some sneezing and sniffling get the best of you?!”

That takes time to overcome

 

[SWJJ]

That will take changing the American mindset (which is happening)

For decades it was ingrained “tough it out, you’re going to let some sneezing and sniffling get the best of you?!”

That takes time to overcome

"You will be putting your "team" short handed"

also

"If you don't show up for your shift, you better have a doctor's note"

 

[UptownSaintsFan]

You should have taken an 8 week vacation and then taken the new job.

have you jumped off the novavax bandwagon yet?

 

[SamAndreas]

My wife actually just texted me and this is happening at her office. The owners called the office manager (who is one of about 4 or 5 who actively has COVID) and told her she needed to be up there in the office putting out fires.



We are ridiculous.

One generally doesn't extinguish fires with gasoline.

 

[SWJJ]

One generally doesn't extinguish fires with gasoline.

EXACTLY

The reason there are so many proverbial fires is because they are so short handed because there is a wave of people out sick with COVID because they keep making people come up there and work while they are still sick.

 

[SamAndreas]

EXACTLY

The reason there are so many proverbial fires is because they are so short handed because there is a wave of people out sick with COVID because they keep making people come up there and work while they are still sick.

Where I'm from that nonsense is called cowboying up. "Oh' come on cowboy up."

I've quit jobs over it.

 

[saintmdterps]

I was almost to 8 weeks time off in December and got another job offer. It seemed like a really good opportunity but my current company does not pay out time off when you leave. That coupled with starting with no time off for the first year with the new job made me stay. I couldn’t walk away from almost $20,000 in time off.

We’ve been “transitioned” 3 times in just over 2 years. Transitioned is code for steal your PTO by old company, then lowball salary offer coupled with being on “probation” for the first 60 days by the new company during which you may or may not accrue PTO, but cannot take any PTO. We all got zero extra time with our families at the holidays. We were told we could take unpaid leave if we wanted time off. Merry ******-******* Christmas.

We all still work in the same building. These were decisions made for us, and not by us. My already abysmal opinion of corporate America has hit yet another low

 

[BroKV]

We’ve been “transitioned” 3 times in just over 2 years. Transitioned is code for steal your PTO by old company, then lowball salary offer coupled with being on “probation” for the first 60 days by the new company during which you may or may not accrue PTO, but cannot take any PTO. We all got zero extra time with our families at the holidays. We were told we could take unpaid leave if we wanted time off. Merry ******-******* Christmas.

We all still work in the same building. These were decisions made for us, and not by us. My already abysmal opinion of corporate America has hit yet another low

That’s some crap, get out bro

 

[BroKV]

You should have taken an 8 week vacation and then taken the new job.

Right, I tried to think of every scenario to make it work. The window was way too small. It all worked out in the end. I did actually turn in my notice though. My current company gave me a 12% increase in pay and bonus of 10% of my gross salary for a Christmas. Plus I kept all my time off.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Among all the ways that COVID-19 affects our lives, the pandemic confronts us with a profound moral dilemma:

How should we react to the deaths of the unvaccinated?

On the one hand, a hallmark of civilized thought is the sense that every life is precious.

On the other, those who have deliberately flouted sober medical advice by refusing a vaccine known to reduce the risk of serious disease from the virus, including the risk to others, and end up in the hospital or the grave can be viewed as receiving their just deserts.

That's even more true of those who not only refused the vaccine for themselves, but publicly advocated that others do so.

It has become common online and in social media for vaccine refusers and anti-vaccine advocates to become the target of ridicule after they come down with COVID-19 and especially if they die from it.

Witness the subreddit HermanCainAward, which Lili Loofbourow of Slate identified in September as "a site for heartless and unrepentant schadenfreude."

The site is named for the former Republican candidate for president who became one of the first political notables to succumb to the disease after publicly defying social distancing measures.

Like another site, sorryantivaxxer.com, the subreddit hosts snippets and photographs of anti-vaccine advocates, often taken at their deathbeds.

The issue of how to think about the deaths of unvaccinated has been thrown into high relief locally by the case of Kelly Ernby, a prominent Orange County Republican and deputy district attorney who advocated against vaccine mandates and died of COVID around New Year's Day, unvaccinated.

Ernby's death promptly came to symbolize the rift in the social fabric caused by the ravages of COVID.

Some online commenters greeted her demise with glee, provoking her political friends to push back against what Ben Chapman, a Costa Mesa GOP official, called "bigotry and hate" directed against her.

My colleague Nicholas Goldberg recently lamented eloquently the rift in the social fabric that this species of callous commentary represents. "Mocking anti-vaxxers when they get sick has become a bit of a sport," he wrote.

I have a slightly different take..............

MSN

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[Sailorsaint]

I'm not mocking someone but, if anti-vaxxers can call the vaxxed "sheeple", I'm entirely entitled to call them idiots.

 

[sammymvpknight]

For putting my health on the line just by coming to work I get 20 whole days a year which is for holidays, sick, and vacation.

This company is the pits, and is one of the reasons I’m seriously considering walking away from health care.

We now have 3 positive residents, and 19 staff members in various stages of quarantine. Here we go again…

Right with you brother. Being told that you can’t get COVID while at work if you wear a surgical mask was insulting. And it undoubtedly led to more people getting sick. Frankly, it was my primary motivation to NOT get COVID. I get a few weeks off per year for vacation and being told that I’d have to use all of it because I got COVID (likely at work) was inhumane. Vacation is very important to ones sanity and health…especially in healthcare.

 

[Infoman]