Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (6 Viewers)

[brandon8283]

So the original topic of the thread was:

Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?​

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So are there any people here left who haven't gotten the vaccine yet? If so, what is your reasoning at this point?

 

[Saint_Ward]

This is why I always have 4 weeks of Vacation/PTO in the bank. Just in case.

We're only allowed to bank 80 hours to the next year.

Of course, that means, if you earn 4 weeks (160 hours) a year like I do, then you're going to have to use all of it every year.

Usually that's not an issue, but the last two years have been harder to just burn it.

And honestly, for something like this, where you're forced to stay home, it's crappy to have to use your PTO too.

 

[Heathen Saint]

So the original topic of the thread was:

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So are there any people here left who haven't gotten the vaccine yet? If so, what is your reasoning at this point?

One of my parents still hasn't gotten it. Sadly i think they'd rather risk death than to get it. My brother hasn't either.,

I have no implicit qualms with their community - but it'd be dishonest to not mention that their particular religious group hasn't had some effect on the way they view
scientific issues - and I'll leave it at that. We really need to push respect and understanding of the natural world (including modern medical miracles - like vaccines) work
to help people detach from places of misunderstanding. That, and lose this obsession with the political in our country. It's cancer.

 

[brandon8283]

One of my parents still hasn't gotten it. Sadly i think they'd rather risk death than to get it. My brother hasn't either.,

I have no implicit qualms with their community - but it'd be dishonest to not mention that their particular religious group hasn't had some effect on the way they view
scientific issues - and I'll leave it at that. We really need to push respect and understanding of the natural world (including modern medical miracles - like vaccines) work
to help people detach from places of misunderstanding. That, and lose this obsession with the political in our country. It's cancer.

Yea. I feel like at this point the only people who haven't gotten the vaccine are people with legitimate medical issues and people who have somewhere in the back of their minds that it might just be the mark of the beast, and they'd rather risk earthly death than spiritual death.

I think it's one of those things where they might feel ridiculous if they said it out loud, so they never do, but that's their subconscious reasoning.

Oh, and the 5G peeps. Let's not forget those guys.

 

[Saint_Ward]

One of my parents still hasn't gotten it. Sadly i think they'd rather risk death than to get it. My brother hasn't either.,

I have no implicit qualms with their community - but it'd be dishonest to not mention that their particular religious group hasn't had some effect on the way they view
scientific issues - and I'll leave it at that. We really need to push respect and understanding of the natural world (including modern medical miracles - like vaccines) work
to help people detach from places of misunderstanding. That, and lose this obsession with the political in our country. It's cancer.

My dad hasn't either. My mom is vaccinated and boosted.

I don't understand it, and he won't even talk about it.

 

[brandon8283]

We're only allowed to bank 80 hours to the next year.

Of course, that means, if you earn 4 weeks (160 hours) a year like I do, then you're going to have to use all of it every year.

Usually that's not an issue, but the last two years have been harder to just burn it.

And honestly, for something like this, where you're forced to stay home, it's crappy to have to use your PTO too.

That is one thing I like about school districts in Mississippi. If you earn it, you can bank it, and if you have enough, you can use it to retire early or get it paid back to you when you do.

I'm at 105 days banked at the moment, lol.

 

[BroKV]

Not everyone's jobs work like that though. The job I had previously and the one I'm currently at both let you carry over a max of 40 hours from one year to the next and then you accrue 7-8 hours every pay check. If you get covid in January and have to be out 2 weeks your stuck with no PTO for that second week even if "did everything right" and planned ahead and were fortunate enough to carry over time from the previous year.

I understand that, I was speaking for myself. I have the ability to save time, so I do. Others don’t and that sucks. If I had a job that didn’t give me personal time, I wouldn’t work there.

 

[BroKV]

We're only allowed to bank 80 hours to the next year.

Of course, that means, if you earn 4 weeks (160 hours) a year like I do, then you're going to have to use all of it every year.

Usually that's not an issue, but the last two years have been harder to just burn it.

And honestly, for something like this, where you're forced to stay home, it's crappy to have to use your PTO too.

It is crappy to have to use it for Covid, that’s for sure. The second week of this last Christmas vacation was spent on the couch with Covid. I earn 160 a year and can carry one year so I do have to find a way to use 4 weeks every year because my bank is full. It’s hard to take off too long because no one does my job, customer get ticked and I come back to a nightmare.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Interesting point.

Don’t know how much of a factor it is
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Ouch — there we go again. Another needle into another arm, for all to see on millions of TV screens coast to coast.

Over the past year, and despite the sheer victory that scene represents — the triumph of those vaccines, developed in record time, distributed free of charge and remarkably effective — it has gradually dawned on me, as I avert my eyes from the television, that even reputable broadcast media shares an inadvertent culpability in vaccine avoidance……

What I think about is this: that the unvaccinated — more than 26 percent of Americans, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — are the central problem of this phase of the epidemic.

They’re the ones who end up in the hospitals, on ventilators and not infrequently, dead. We’re currently hovering at just over 1,200 U.S. deaths per day — a metric that has become so numbing it’s not even mentioned much anymore. In recent months, the unvaccinated have made up the vast majority of that figure.

And if I, as a vaccine proponent and science advocate, find myself looking away from the screen, how many thousands of others out there who have a deep-seated horror of needles, or who have doubts about science and vaccines, or both — how many of them have been put off by that shot of a shot, endlessly reshot?

Quite a lot, as it turns out. If you thought that only a small percentage of the population suffers from trypanophobia, think again. (The term combines the Greek word “trypano,” for piercing or puncturing, and “phobia,” meaning fear.)

Something like 25 percent of adults have an irrational antipathy to needles. (One of them, apparently, is freshly convicted fraudster Elizabeth Holmes, who has cited such a fear as a reason for founding her sham blood-testing company, Theranos.)

This results in about 16 percent of the adult population avoiding routine vaccinations. Such statistics make it easy to surmise that repeated televised footage of injections provides many people with more than a reason to look away.

It gives them graphic grounds to stay away from vaccinations altogether.

I’m not suggesting that broadcast media of the mainstream kind, or lefty cable such as MSNBC, are willingly assisting anti-vaccine propagandists.

What I am saying is that even media genuinely operating in the public interest, and serving as a vital buttress to our democratic system, are playing an unwitting yet significant role.

Certainly, all those televised needles advancing toward arms make the death-dealing dishonesty of disinformation superspreaders immeasurably easier…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/11/plea-news-media-please-stop-showing-shots-vaccine-shots/

 

[bclemms]

Interesting point.

Don’t know how much of a factor it is
===============

Ouch — there we go again. Another needle into another arm, for all to see on millions of TV screens coast to coast.

Over the past year, and despite the sheer victory that scene represents — the triumph of those vaccines, developed in record time, distributed free of charge and remarkably effective — it has gradually dawned on me, as I avert my eyes from the television, that even reputable broadcast media shares an inadvertent culpability in vaccine avoidance……

What I think about is this: that the unvaccinated — more than 26 percent of Americans, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — are the central problem of this phase of the epidemic.

They’re the ones who end up in the hospitals, on ventilators and not infrequently, dead. We’re currently hovering at just over 1,200 U.S. deaths per day — a metric that has become so numbing it’s not even mentioned much anymore. In recent months, the unvaccinated have made up the vast majority of that figure.

And if I, as a vaccine proponent and science advocate, find myself looking away from the screen, how many thousands of others out there who have a deep-seated horror of needles, or who have doubts about science and vaccines, or both — how many of them have been put off by that shot of a shot, endlessly reshot?

Quite a lot, as it turns out. If you thought that only a small percentage of the population suffers from trypanophobia, think again. (The term combines the Greek word “trypano,” for piercing or puncturing, and “phobia,” meaning fear.)

Something like 25 percent of adults have an irrational antipathy to needles. (One of them, apparently, is freshly convicted fraudster Elizabeth Holmes, who has cited such a fear as a reason for founding her sham blood-testing company, Theranos.)

This results in about 16 percent of the adult population avoiding routine vaccinations. Such statistics make it easy to surmise that repeated televised footage of injections provides many people with more than a reason to look away.

It gives them graphic grounds to stay away from vaccinations altogether.

I’m not suggesting that broadcast media of the mainstream kind, or lefty cable such as MSNBC, are willingly assisting anti-vaccine propagandists.

What I am saying is that even media genuinely operating in the public interest, and serving as a vital buttress to our democratic system, are playing an unwitting yet significant role.

Certainly, all those televised needles advancing toward arms make the death-dealing dishonesty of disinformation superspreaders immeasurably easier…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/11/plea-news-media-please-stop-showing-shots-vaccine-shots/

I find this article really naive.

For the antivaxxers, medical conditions were never part of the equation. Everyone knows the driving force and the divide are politics, misinformation, education and poverty.

I bet if we took the 25% of Americans that have irrational antipath to needles and did a survey, the number of vaccinated and unvaccinated would be split right along political and geopolitical lines just like the other 75%.

 

[sammymvpknight]

As long as you (or somone) will reimburse me for lost wages, we're good. ;-)

I get it. It’s tough. Do your best to be responsible. You don’t want to hear that your coworker’s mom died after you possibly exposed them to COVID.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I get it. It’s tough. Do your best to be responsible. You don’t want to hear that your coworker’s mom died after you possibly exposed them to COVID.

but he will have gotten paid, so i guess it would be worth it to him.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Well, what do you know. The shoe is suddenly on the other foot in the vaxxed/unvaxxed war. Instead of the unvaxxed feeling unfairly judged for not wanting the vax and not caring if they spread Covid, now the vaxxed are being given the choice between protecting the unvaxxed and feeding their family, and being judged on their choices.

 

[UK SAINTS]

but he will have gotten paid, so i guess it would be worth it to him.

I don't mind playing "devil's advocate" at times to try and get others to look at things differently. Your childish comments do give me a chuckle, though.
Step up to the plate, big boy, and cover someone's time off.
Or is your money better than somone else's life? lol

 

[Optimus Prime]

I find this article really naive.

For the antivaxxers, medical conditions were never part of the equation. Everyone knows the driving force and the divide are politics, misinformation, education and poverty.

I bet if we took the 25% of Americans that have irrational antipath to needles and did a survey, the number of vaccinated and unvaccinated would be split right along political and geopolitical lines just like the other 75%.

Yeah, I don't know how many people have no problems with the vaccine except for the needle part