Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (4 Viewers)

[WhoDatPhan78]

I agree it's not for prevention but rather for treatment of the severe inflammation caused by covid. Covid has been found to not only cause inflammation in the respiratory system, but within other areas of the body as well, and ivermectin has become established with decades of use in helping stem inflammation.

There are plenty of drugs that are anti-inflammatory.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Sure, but very often, when I've heard people talk ivermectin it's in the context of Covid prevention. It won't prevent it at all. And the treatment is at best, to help reat symptoms, but it won't stop a Covid infection. A lot of people aren't aware that it's not an antiviral.

There were stories of people lying in the ICU, dying of Covid, refusing all vaccines and demanding ivermectin.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

There were stories of people lying in the ICU, dying of Covid, refusing all vaccines and demanding ivermectin.

"Got a link" Need proof. Seems to be the theme here.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

There are plenty of drugs that are anti-inflammatory.

You mean associated with big Pharma?

 

[SaintInBucLand]

There are plenty of drugs that are anti-inflammatory.

Absolutely, but it's good to have many tools in your box to fight inflammation. It can be one of those tools and is a very affordable means to fight inflammation but one that comes with more than 50 years of use in humans as safe and effective.

 

[Sailorsaint]

"Got a link" Need proof. Seems to be the theme here.

No, you'll just have to trust that I'm not lying and telling only the facts.

 

[DaveXA]

The dang vax and booster didn't prevent it, but it sure was broadcast that it did.

If it was broadcast that it prevents the spread, at least not directly, it shouldn't have been. What it was supposed to do was reduce severity of cases and dramatically reduced the number of deaths. And that's how the vaccine is supposed to work.

 

[DaveXA]

There were stories of people lying in the ICU, dying of Covid, refusing all vaccines and demanding ivermectin.

Indeed. And at that stage, would have been useless.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

Absolutely, but it's good to have many tools in your box to fight inflammation. It can be one of those tools and is a very affordable means to fight inflammation but one that comes with more than 50 years of use in humans as safe and effective.

But no one who was pitching ivermectin during the pandemic were suggesting it was an alternative to ibuprofen.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

You mean associated with big Pharma?

There are dozens of generic anti-inflammatories.

You don't think anyone was making money from ivermectin?

 

[faceman]

There are dozens of generic anti-inflammatories.

You don't think anyone was making money from ivermectin?

A 30 day supply of prescription strength ibuprofen set me back $3.75 after hernia surgery in January.

 

[faceman]

You mean associated with big Pharma?

Merk makes most of the ivermectin sold in the U.S. That's as big as it gets. Here is their statement
about the use of ivermectin for the treatment of Covid.

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of...

www.merck.com

• No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
• No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
• A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

 

[Tapxe]

Merk makes most of the ivermectin sold in the U.S. That's as big as it gets. Here is their statement
about the use of ivermectin for the treatment of Covid.

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of...

www.merck.com

• No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
• No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
• A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

Does Merck not have twitter or FB? It seems clear that the company failed to do their own research like Ivermectin supporters.

 

[Booker]

Merk makes most of the ivermectin sold in the U.S. That's as big as it gets. Here is their statement
about the use of ivermectin for the treatment of Covid.

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of...

www.merck.com

• No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
• No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
• A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

Just reminded me -- I need to give my dogs their heartworm pills.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Ivermectin does have some anti-viral properties, so it made sense to test it in controlled experiments for effectiveness as a COVID-19 treatment. That's fine.

However, there was no particular reason to believe that it was going to be effective for COVID-19 since it was developed as an anti-fungal medicine, and pretty early on initial clinical trials showed that it was no more effective at treating COVID-19 than a placebo. Further studies affirmed this. This was known pretty early on, so anyone saying that it was an effective treatment was spreading misinformation that increased people's risks. People definitely died because they believed that provably false information.

Basically, some people quickly fell down a rabbit hole where they were determined to first believe it was a hoax, and then there was some easy cure just ready off the shelf and so on. It's tremendously frustrating.

This isn't to say that the government was perfect in handling the pandemic, in messaging and policy. In a nice rational world, we'd have hearings and discussion to do a good thorough examination so we'd do better next time... but I have little faith that we could do that in a productive manner.