Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (10 Viewers)

[Optimus Prime]

Hope you feel better soon

 

[LonghornSaint]

tl;dr version - strongly consider getting the annual vaccinations/boosters


I didn't get the new Covid vaccine this year, but did get the flu shot in October. Over the years, I was initially vaccinated and did get 2 boosters though. I guess I figured, what's the point of getting the new Covid vaccine? Well, I found out what the point is, in a scary way this week.

Both me and my wife have Covid. For me it started last Saturday/Sunday. For her, it was Tuesday. In my case, this virus has set up camp in my throat. The pain has been so severe it feels like a bad case of strep. On Tuesday, the at-home test showed I was positive, but yesterday I went to a nearby Urgent Care place to get some pain relief for my throat. I tested positive there and was given Paxlovid and a cough medicine. Let me get to the "what's the point".

Twice this week I woke in the middle of the night struggling to breathe. It happened again last night at 3am. My throat felt so tight and narrowed, that with the mucus lining it, air couldn't easily pass through. I seriously considered calling 911 and going wake my wife. I slept in the living room while she was in our bedroom. Eventually normal breathing returned, but it took me a while to settle down from it. I took some ibuprofen to reduce the swelling and fell asleep with no further issues but I kept my head more elevated in the recliner. Last night was the 1st course of Paxlovid and I feel its effects already.

While I was awake trying to normalize my breathing, I couldn't help but think how lucky I was to have had prior vaccinations, boosters and a therapeutic. Without those, I strongly believe I would've been in the hospital. I guess I'm more at-risk because I'm 52 and take blood pressure medication. Speaking of blood pressure, even with taking the medication, my blood pressure registered 144/94 at the place yesterday. I told the woman I didn't understand why it was that high because I'm taking my meds. She said, Covid does this. Over 52 years I have had colds, flu, sinusitis and strep multiple times. Covid has been nothing like them. It's nasty.

After this experience, I will be getting the new boosters and vaccinations when they're available. It was easy to see how having this could put people in the hospital due to breathing issues. I don't want to be one of those people. It was scary.

Glad you're feeling better. My first round of covid was last year, and I was vaxxed. While waiting for a prescription of paxlovid to arrive, I opted to avoid night time nasal meds - as I didn't know at the time if they might have an interaction with paxlovid. That night was horrific with a stopped up head, I literally had to turn sideways in bed and put pillows against the wall to elevate and help drainage. Still only got 20 mins at a stretch for sleep. Started paxlovid the next day and learned from my primary that the otc night nasal meds were fine. After starting that, I started feeling better quickly.

Very glad I was vaxxed!

 

[Utah Saints]

Glad you're starting to feel better gboudx!

Got triple-jabbed Tuesday. Flu shot, new COVID shot, and a TDAP, cause I can't remember the last time I had a tetanus shot, and I don't feel like breaking my ribs coughing from Pertussis. I'm not 50, so no Shingles vaccine, next year.

Same old same old, but milder. This is the third time I've gotten flu+covid simultaneously. Feel fine the day of, start feeling tired later in the day, wake up around 4am feeling like crap, stays like that for about a day. Mild headache. No painkillers. Feel pretty much 100% back to normal today. No discernable effects from TDAP, except for two sore arms instead of one lol.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In 2021, a bizarre cure for COVID-19 began to emerge on social media, the anti-parasite drug ivermectin. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is now under fire for its efforts to refute claims that the drugs could stop the deadly virus.

A group of doctors is now suing the FDA, saying the agency’s efforts to refute claims about the drug’s effectiveness against COVID caused them personal harm. Some experts fear that punishment the FDA could face for refuting false information about the drug could undermine public health messaging in America.

After a questionable later-retracted study claiming ivermectin could cure COVID emerged in 2021, many Americans began to seek it out. It especially became popular among people in communities that were skeptical of the COVID-19 vaccines and other pandemic measures such as masking and social distancing.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved drug, meaning doctors are allowed to prescribe it as they see fit. While it is meant to treat parasitic diseases, many doctors — some hoping to cash it on the ivermectin craze — began to prescribe it off-label for COVID. The drug has never been proven to be effective against COVID, and multiple studies investigating its efficacy have found it to be ineffective against the virus.

Some anecdotal reports emerged that people were seeking out veterinary versions of the drug, meant for horses or cows, to use to fight infections.

A now-infamous Tweet from the FDA responding to these stories is now at the center of the current lawsuit.

“You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it,” the FDA wrote on the platform now known as X.

Three doctors are plaintiffs in the lawsuit, first filed in September. Robert Apter, M.D., an Arizona physician; Paul Marik, M.D., a doctor at Eastern Virginia Medical School; and Mary Talley Bowden, M.D., a Texas doctor who made national headlines when she was suspended by Houston Methodist Hospital for allegedly spreading vaccine misinformation..........

“FDA decided to target that practice via the ‘horse’ message—and others like it. The messaging traveled widely across legacy and online media,” they write in their suit. “Left unmentioned in most of the messaging: ivermectin also comes in a human version. And while the human version of ivermectin is not FDA-approved to treat the coronavirus, some people were using it off-label for that purpose.”

The plaintiffs say they prescribed the medication off-label to “thousands of their patients”. They claim the FDA’s ivermectin messaging “interfered with their own individual medical practice”...............

MSN

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[Sailorsaint]

In 2021, a bizarre cure for COVID-19 began to emerge on social media, the anti-parasite drug ivermectin. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is now under fire for its efforts to refute claims that the drugs could stop the deadly virus.

A group of doctors is now suing the FDA, saying the agency’s efforts to refute claims about the drug’s effectiveness against COVID caused them personal harm. Some experts fear that punishment the FDA could face for refuting false information about the drug could undermine public health messaging in America.

After a questionable later-retracted study claiming ivermectin could cure COVID emerged in 2021, many Americans began to seek it out. It especially became popular among people in communities that were skeptical of the COVID-19 vaccines and other pandemic measures such as masking and social distancing.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved drug, meaning doctors are allowed to prescribe it as they see fit. While it is meant to treat parasitic diseases, many doctors — some hoping to cash it on the ivermectin craze — began to prescribe it off-label for COVID. The drug has never been proven to be effective against COVID, and multiple studies investigating its efficacy have found it to be ineffective against the virus.

Some anecdotal reports emerged that people were seeking out veterinary versions of the drug, meant for horses or cows, to use to fight infections.

A now-infamous Tweet from the FDA responding to these stories is now at the center of the current lawsuit.

“You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it,” the FDA wrote on the platform now known as X.

Three doctors are plaintiffs in the lawsuit, first filed in September. Robert Apter, M.D., an Arizona physician; Paul Marik, M.D., a doctor at Eastern Virginia Medical School; and Mary Talley Bowden, M.D., a Texas doctor who made national headlines when she was suspended by Houston Methodist Hospital for allegedly spreading vaccine misinformation..........

“FDA decided to target that practice via the ‘horse’ message—and others like it. The messaging traveled widely across legacy and online media,” they write in their suit. “Left unmentioned in most of the messaging: ivermectin also comes in a human version. And while the human version of ivermectin is not FDA-approved to treat the coronavirus, some people were using it off-label for that purpose.”

The plaintiffs say they prescribed the medication off-label to “thousands of their patients”. They claim the FDA’s ivermectin messaging “interfered with their own individual medical practice”...............

MSN

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Y’all do know that we are literally living in the prequel to Idiocracy, right?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Nearly 17,000 people across six countries may have died because they took hydroxychloroquine (HQC) during the first wave of COVID-19 in 2020, according to a new analysis published by French researchers.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malaria drug that was prescribed off-label to treat COVID-19 in the early stage of the pandemic, as researchers and physicians scrambled to find a way to combat the disease. It was also proposed as a preventative measure.

In February and March 2020, the use of this treatment was widely promoted based on preliminary reports suggesting a potential efficacy against COVID-19. However, subsequent studies showed that not only did the drug have no benefit, it also resulted in a significant increase in risk of death.

According to the researchers from Lyon, France, and Quebec, Canada, providers still prescribed hydroxychloroquine to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.”

The analysis found an estimated 16,990 excess deaths across six countries — Turkey, Belgium, France, Spain, Italy and the U.S. — were likely attributed to hydroxychloroquine use.

The researchers analyzed other studies that tracked hospitalizations, exposure to hydroxychloroquine and the relative risk of death from the drug.

The toxicity of hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19 was partially due to cardiac side effects, such as abnormal heart rhythms.

However, the researchers noted their numbers were likely an undercoun, but could also be a significant overcount.

The study period was only from March to July 2020, and there was a general lack of data from most countries. The actual number of deaths related to hydroxychloroquine could be between 3,000 and 30,000, they said.

Worldwide, the number of deaths related to hydroxychloroquine “was obviously underestimated because of the lack of studies in regions, such as East Europe, United Kingdom, Germany, Scandinavia, Africa, and South America,” the researchers wrote.

Since there were about 600 million people combined living in the countries included in the study, the researchers said the real number of hydroxychloroquine-induced deaths might be “significantly higher given the wide use of HCQ during the first and subsequent waves in numerous countries.” ...............

Nearly 17,000 people may have died from hydroxychloroquine: study

Nearly 17,000 people across six countries may have died because they took hydroxychloroquine (HQC) during the first wave of COVID-19 in 2020, according to a new analysis published by French researc…

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[donato]

It's not as effective if you don't follow it up with your disinfectant injections.

 

[Booker]

It's not as effective if you don't follow it up with your disinfectant injections.

And your heart worm booster…

 

[El Caliente]

And your heart worm booster…

That’s a tale as old as time. If you don’t follow through with heart worm booster you will have nasty stool (unlike proper looking stool specimens).

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Nearly 17,000 people across six countries may have died because they took hydroxychloroquine (HQC) during the first wave of COVID-19 in 2020, according to a new analysis published by French researchers.

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malaria drug that was prescribed off-label to treat COVID-19 in the early stage of the pandemic, as researchers and physicians scrambled to find a way to combat the disease. It was also proposed as a preventative measure.

In February and March 2020, the use of this treatment was widely promoted based on preliminary reports suggesting a potential efficacy against COVID-19. However, subsequent studies showed that not only did the drug have no benefit, it also resulted in a significant increase in risk of death.

According to the researchers from Lyon, France, and Quebec, Canada, providers still prescribed hydroxychloroquine to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.”

The analysis found an estimated 16,990 excess deaths across six countries — Turkey, Belgium, France, Spain, Italy and the U.S. — were likely attributed to hydroxychloroquine use.

The researchers analyzed other studies that tracked hospitalizations, exposure to hydroxychloroquine and the relative risk of death from the drug.

The toxicity of hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19 was partially due to cardiac side effects, such as abnormal heart rhythms.

However, the researchers noted their numbers were likely an undercoun, but could also be a significant overcount.

The study period was only from March to July 2020, and there was a general lack of data from most countries. The actual number of deaths related to hydroxychloroquine could be between 3,000 and 30,000, they said.

Worldwide, the number of deaths related to hydroxychloroquine “was obviously underestimated because of the lack of studies in regions, such as East Europe, United Kingdom, Germany, Scandinavia, Africa, and South America,” the researchers wrote.

Since there were about 600 million people combined living in the countries included in the study, the researchers said the real number of hydroxychloroquine-induced deaths might be “significantly higher given the wide use of HCQ during the first and subsequent waves in numerous countries.” ...............

Nearly 17,000 people may have died from hydroxychloroquine: study

Nearly 17,000 people across six countries may have died because they took hydroxychloroquine (HQC) during the first wave of COVID-19 in 2020, according to a new analysis published by French researc…

thehill.com

Came to post

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

It's not as effective if you don't follow it up with your disinfectant injections.

And your heart worm booster…

… and a UV light inserted into your bum.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

… and a UV light inserted into your bum.

Booker’s bum specifically or the general’your’?

 

[Dago]

Back in 2020, I brought up 2 articles from biomedical firms in Japan and India indicating that Ashwagandha was a viable treatment for covid and also talked about my experience. I also caught some flak for doing so
Here are articles from the US Department of Health and Human Services. Why hasn't this been announced to the public at large?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8188803/

Withania somnifera (L.) Dunal (Ashwagandha) for the possible therapeutics and clinical management of SARS-CoV-2 infection: Plant-based drug discovery and targeted therapy - PMC

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has killed huge populations throughout the world and acts as a high-risk factor for elderly and young immune-suppressed patients. There is a critical need to build up secure, reliable, and efficient drugs ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Well, the COVID bug hit our house on Monday. Happy New Year! I can tell you this. We first got COVID in November of 2020 and hit the whole family. We were worn out, stuffy, aches and pains, cough, the works. The best part is that as a family, we were home for two weeks so we binged Breaking Bad. Got through it all and came out okay. We all got vaccinated and boosted. Admittedly, I have not had an up to date booster and now, I'm immune for 90 days but will get the booster next fall. My first and second vaccination, HOLY GOD, did I feel like I wanted to die! Slept 24 hours on each shot and took me three days to feel normal. Horrible. Didn't bother my wife at all when she got the vaccine. Booster was a half dose so I slept for 12 hours.

Fast forward to now and we have this variant of COVID and she is coughing, super headaches and so on. Me? Tired, stuffed up, no serious coughing, actually sneezing which is good and some headaches but coherent. Yes, when we had it the first time, I was so out of it. Now, I can type this and feel fine. My wife joked that maybe since the vaccine killed me, that set me up to fight COVID that much more. Who knows.

It hit us on Monday, which technically means we probably got it on Friday or Saturday so our five days are up on Sunday. Good thing as we have to drive to NJ on Monday to drop my daughter back at college and I need to be on point in that traffic. Where we got it? Who knows. My son's band played three gigs this past weekend and there was a lot of meeting new people, seeing old friends and general people as well. Could have come from anywhere.

I know there are many, MANY opinions on the vaccine but I just know that it has worked for us.

 

[cpg]

In 2021, a bizarre cure for COVID-19 began to emerge on social media, the anti-parasite drug ivermectin. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is now under fire for its efforts to refute claims that the drugs could stop the deadly virus.

A group of doctors is now suing the FDA, saying the agency’s efforts to refute claims about the drug’s effectiveness against COVID caused them personal harm. Some experts fear that punishment the FDA could face for refuting false information about the drug could undermine public health messaging in America.

After a questionable later-retracted study claiming ivermectin could cure COVID emerged in 2021, many Americans began to seek it out. It especially became popular among people in communities that were skeptical of the COVID-19 vaccines and other pandemic measures such as masking and social distancing.

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved drug, meaning doctors are allowed to prescribe it as they see fit. While it is meant to treat parasitic diseases, many doctors — some hoping to cash it on the ivermectin craze — began to prescribe it off-label for COVID. The drug has never been proven to be effective against COVID, and multiple studies investigating its efficacy have found it to be ineffective against the virus.

Some anecdotal reports emerged that people were seeking out veterinary versions of the drug, meant for horses or cows, to use to fight infections.

A now-infamous Tweet from the FDA responding to these stories is now at the center of the current lawsuit.

“You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it,” the FDA wrote on the platform now known as X.

Three doctors are plaintiffs in the lawsuit, first filed in September. Robert Apter, M.D., an Arizona physician; Paul Marik, M.D., a doctor at Eastern Virginia Medical School; and Mary Talley Bowden, M.D., a Texas doctor who made national headlines when she was suspended by Houston Methodist Hospital for allegedly spreading vaccine misinformation..........

“FDA decided to target that practice via the ‘horse’ message—and others like it. The messaging traveled widely across legacy and online media,” they write in their suit. “Left unmentioned in most of the messaging: ivermectin also comes in a human version. And while the human version of ivermectin is not FDA-approved to treat the coronavirus, some people were using it off-label for that purpose.”

The plaintiffs say they prescribed the medication off-label to “thousands of their patients”. They claim the FDA’s ivermectin messaging “interfered with their own individual medical practice”...............

MSN

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Two things are very important from this: 1) Ivermectin has never been shown to be effective in the treatment of COVID. Its usage by fringe groups was likely politically motivated and the decision to bring a lawsuit to the FDA seems similarly politically driven. Continuing to prescribe it is to do so erroneously and in bad faith, unless substantial evidence emerges to support its effectiveness. 2) The FDA has no jurisdiction to influence the treatment of a patient by a physician. And its equivocation of Ivermectin as a livestock medicine not suitable for humans is disingenuous to its agency's own approval of the drug for humans. The desire to dunk on those prescribing it or seeking it as a remedy could be considered outside of their purview and, should a court deem it appropriate, there may justly be ramifications for overstepping.

These points are fundamentally true irrespective of one's political affiliation.

Personally, I dislike this on every level. The politicization of medical treatment is a slippery slope we ought to avoid at all costs.

One other thing of note from that article that suggests bias is "many doctors — some hoping to cash it on the ivermectin craze — began to prescribe it off-label for COVID." Ivermectin is a very affordable drug by nearly any standard. If physicians were seeking a way to "cash it" off of this, then there are far more expensive drugs in the anti-parasitic class.