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[Semper]

I have finally watched every episode. This is one interesting town. Every person is a martial arts expert. If they arent give em a couple months and they are now capable defeating assassins who have trained for their entire life.

 

[Sun Wukong]

I have finally watched every episode. This is one interesting town. Every person is a martial arts expert. If they arent give em a couple months and they are now capable defeating assassins who have trained for their entire life.

The only character that really fits that description is Thea who suddenly became a ****** after a mere five months of training with Malcolm (while holding down a job, no less). Maybe Roy, but even if he didn't get formal training until recently he grew up fighting anything that moved in The Glades and they've shown him make enough mistakes as Arsenal to show that he isn't quite capable of running with the big dogs on his own just yet.

Everyone else has years and years of training at the hands of very dangerous people.

 

[Saintman2884]

Particularly Oliver Queen, who spent years being trained by DeathStroke/Slade, along with Sara, at least for the first or so they both on the island before they were separated when freighter flooded, plus being trained as Argus assassin in Hong Kong by Amanda Weller when he briefly fled the island 3 years after he and his father supposedly died on that luxury cruise accident, which clearly we know now was no accident. Only thing that seems bit odd is that Oliver never had any run-ins with Sara was picked up and trained as an assassin by Nyssa Al-Ghul's League of Assassins before his first rescue. Working with a clandestine, covert spy agency like Argus it's reasonable to at least assume Oliver heard of them or at least know about rumors surrounding Ra al-Ghul or the League of Assassins or that one of their best assassins was his ex-girlfriend.
Off-topic but one thing I wish they'd consider trying in a future Avengers movie is touch on Wolverine
s history with Nick Fury/S.H.I.E.L.D and there is enough comic material to tie it in since Nick Fury's S.H.I.E.L.D worked black-ops missions with Wolverine's Alpha Flight or with him, Deadpool, Sabertooth, and Lady Deathstrike in Department H in the late 60's/early 70's before Logan quit and joined the X-Men and of course, Wolverine didn't exactly have a good relationship with S.H.I.E.L.D or Nick Fury, but he's one Marvel Universe character that would create an interesting Avengers sub-plot if they decided to explore it in a future movie that's different from Thor, Iron Man, or Black Widow.
FWIW, I've said this before but this show took a big risk bringing in a complicated, complex character like Ra al-Ghul and intertwining into its chronology, and it's worked, Ra's not your typical amoral psychopath like the Joker or some vengeful villain like Two-Face who has dissociative-personality disorder, he and League of Shadows fit in lot more as villains in Batman's universe, because again at least there's more signs of mutual respect, in the comics, Al-Ghul never shied away from saying how much he respected Batman/Bruce Wayne, or that he was the best assassin he ever trained before he became Batman, or that his daughter, Talia Al-Ghul, love for him wasn't genuine. It sort of like the General Zod/Superman dichotomy where both men, initially, have a shared mutual respect, but become enemies by either circumstances or that one's side's beliefs become too extreme for other to tolerate.

 

[Torgo]

The only character that really fits that description is Thea who suddenly became a ****** after a mere five months of training with Malcolm (while holding down a job, no less). Maybe Roy, but even if he didn't get formal training until recently he grew up fighting anything that moved in The Glades and they've shown him make enough mistakes as Arsenal to show that he isn't quite capable of running with the big dogs on his own just yet.

Everyone else has years and years of training at the hands of very dangerous people.

This.

Even Laurel already had some moves back in season one from being a cop's daughter. Thea is really the only one that has learned after only a few months.

Really not sure what to think of the ending. Did Roy really kill Sara or are his dreams just a manifestation of his memory from killing that policeman during his Mirakuru rampage? Should be interesting.

Also, goth Felicity? Even hotter than nerd Felicity.

 

[Brock Meaux]

This.

Even Laurel already had some moves back in season one from being a cop's daughter. Thea is really the only one that has learned after only a few months.

Really not sure what to think of the ending. Did Roy really kill Sara or are his dreams just a manifestation of his memory from killing that policeman during his Mirakuru rampage? Should be interesting.

Also, goth Felicity? Even hotter than nerd Felicity.

If he was physically behind the bow, he wasn't in control mentally. I have no doubt that Ra's was behind Sara's death, if not shooting the arrows himself (and planting memories somehow to make Roy assume guilt), he was using some kind of mind control to get Roy to do it.

 

[Saintman2884]

brock, Ra's already made himself a suspect at the end of episode 4 when he told a returning Nyssa that he's glad Sara died, since she never embraced being apart of the League of Assassins anyway. I do think Nyssa's remorse for Sara was genuine and obviously if her father did set her up by sending an assassin to kill her on a bogus mission, he'll have hell to pay if his daughter finds out, and in several of comic story lines, Nyssa hated her father bitterly years after WWII for collaborating with Nazis' Final Solution and in fact spent time as a prisoner at Auschwitz.

Also, what if Merlyn really isn't on League of Shadows hit list anymore and was the one who killed Sara? And maybe he or one of his associates killed her on Ra's orders but tried making it look like Arrow or one of his associates did it to play on Nyssa's grief that she would go after Arrow out of revenge? If he didn't really die at the end of Season 1, Ra's would've found out pretty quickly, perhaps he and certain members of League came to some sort of secret truce to take care of a mutual enemy in Oliver Queen and later on, the Flash if he got involved.

 

[Semper]

I guess I just see Laural heading down this path of bad *** soon, and the Thea thing is too unbelievable. Overall it is entertaining television though.

 

[Torgo]

If he was physically behind the bow, he wasn't in control mentally. I have no doubt that Ra's was behind Sara's death, if not shooting the arrows himself (and planting memories somehow to make Roy assume guilt), he was using some kind of mind control to get Roy to do it.

I definitely think if Roy physically did it, he was under the control of someone. The next episode is titled "Guilty" so I'm still thinking it's Roy's sub-conscious guilt over murdering that cop last year that is making him think he killed Sara. I'm intrigued either way. Both Arrow and Flash do such a good job with their final scene "twists."

 

[Semper]

ok, this woman on tv was getting the crap beat out of her by one guy last night. 6 months later she is kicking arrows arse... And of course the new owner of Queen is going to be a robot or something... Where are the normal people??? How come the black guy can't get some love? He gets a stupid ski mask and his butt kicked all the time.

 

[Sun Wukong]

It's a show based on a comic book. If you're looking for normal people, you're probably watching the wrong show. But it could always be weirder. In the comics, Ray Plamer can shrink to sub atomic size and still maintain the strength of a normal sized man. We haven't seen any of that. Yet!

 

[Semper]

Yeah I know its a comic. When you look at Flash for instance there are normal people in the show.

 

[KiwiSaint]

The Atom!!! This should be interesting!

 

[superlaser]

ok, this woman on tv was getting the crap beat out of her by one guy last night. 6 months later she is kicking arrows arse... And of course the new owner of Queen is going to be a robot or something... Where are the normal people??? How come the black guy can't get some love? He gets a stupid ski mask and his butt kicked all the time.

That 'one guy' who beat her up was one of Slade's Mirakuru goons. Even Ollie had trouble with them one on one. They also mentioned that she was the first woman on SCPD Swat before any of this happened, so she had established credibility. Plus, she may have gotten in a few good shots but Ollie mostly whooped her. I also think he was holding back trying to talk her down. I don't think it's that out of line.

 

[Semper]

I thought all of the mirakuru guys were done. I just would like a few normal people on the sjow also.

 

[Soundwave]

I thought all of the mirakuru guys were done. I just would like a few normal people on the sjow also.

It was a flashback.