Chris Olave’s brother Josh Olave will be on Underhill live stream during PHI-GB wildcard game (98 Viewers)

[Hubig]

Lets not act like that Panthers player who concussed him wasn't headhunting. That was over the top ridiculous. I think now that he has a history, someone out there is gonna make a dirty play in the future.

 

[TruSaint]

Michael Thomas

2017 2017

NO

104 104

1,245 1,245

12.0 12.0

5

Chris Olave

2023 2023

NO

87 87

1,123 1,123

12.9 12.9

5

Both second seasons, both very similar, and I don’t remember people ever saying MTs stat lines aren’t productive or he can’t play up to expectations

Anyone saying Olave hasn’t produced is just wrong. End of discussion. I forget the stat but I think Olave is like one of the only WRs in history to record so many consecutive 40+ yard games. Anyway Olave has produced and he’s done it with bad offensive coordinating. But we need a big X type of WR or a TE to help take off some of the pressure.

 

[CowtownSaint]

Anyone saying Olave hasn’t produced is just wrong. End of discussion. I forget the stat but I think Olave is like one of the only WRs in history to record so many consecutive 40+ yard games. Anyway Olave has produced and he’s done it with bad offensive coordinating. But we need a big X type of WR or a TE to help take off some of the pressure.

Consecutive 1000 yard seasons before injuries this year, he certainly has done a very good job producing!

 

[Deuuuuce]

I get his brother being unpopular due to his tweets/comments, but Chris Olave hasn’t really conveyed the idea that he wants to be paid #1 money without getting hit or having defenders focusing on him.

What great player doesn’t want number 1 money though? If he wants it, he will have to prove he can do the dirty work every go to guy does and stay healthy.

 

[Snakehead]

Lets not act like that Panthers player who concussed him wasn't headhunting. That was over the top ridiculous. I think now that he has a history, someone out there is gonna make a dirty play in the future.

People like to overlook that. It's going to happen for the rest of his career.

Watch today's GB/PHI game. GB defenders will go for Hurts' head if they get the chance, they'll try to slam him into the ground.

 

[TruSaint]

Consecutive 1000 yard seasons before injuries this year, he certainly has done a very good job producing!

Correct, Olave has never been the problem.

 

[St. Widge]

Could be but Saints coaching staff needs to realize that they have to use Olave a lot better than they have for 3 years now. Several concussions yet something’s not getting through to them on what type of skillset Olave has.

Too many violent middle of the field looks that could be more sideline outs, curls, and deep shots. Routes that takes advantage of Olave’s quickness and elite separation on the break. Instead of throwing him into brutal hits.

Yep. No matter how good your QB is, if guys run those kinds of routes they are going to get hit hard. It would be nice if every throw was in the perfect position for the WR to get down to avoid or absorb contact better, but that isn't reality when throws are split second decisions. The only other option is not to throw to an open WR because he's going to get hit hard and that's not a way to run a functional offense.

So, they need to not put Olave in that position. That being said, Olave does need to work on his neck muscles because even on other routes he can and does get hit. He also needs to put on the Guardian Cover for the same reasons. In fact, IIRC, at least one of the concussion he got was on a route near the sideline and his head got slammed into the turf as he was falling down backwards.

 

[St. Widge]

People like to overlook that. It's going to happen for the rest of his career.

Watch today's GB/PHI game. GB defenders will go for Hurts' head if they get the chance, they'll try to slam him into the ground.

That Panthers played pulled up on the hit. He was not head hunting. And frankly most guys are not going to do that in the modern NFL because they don't want to get fined. And if they get the rep for heat hunting, they are going to get more penalties and more and larger fines.

 

[St. Widge]

Olave was unhappy that he wasn’t getting the ball the prior year. So now he gets the ball when he’s covered pretty closely and gets lit up and hurt as a result. It seems to me like he isn’t getting the separation needed to get the targets he wants without getting balls thrown in odd places that leave him exposed. If the QB threw the ball to safe spots for Olave, they’d be more likely to be intercepted. Thats why he’s not a number 1. Need a big guy that can take a hit and draw attention from Olave and probably reduce his targets.

Olave was leading the league in separation before he got hurt so lack of separation wasn't the issue. I also don't think "#1 WR" requires you to be an X or run all the routes. As I know you know, each position requires different skills and you don't have to be a big X that goes over the middle to be the #1 WR.

And I don't really care if he's the #1 WR or not, they need to use him in a way that keeps him on the field and best uses his talents.

 

[Elvis]

Olave was leading the league in separation before he got hurt so lack of separation wasn't the issue. I also don't think "#1 WR" requires you to be an X or run all the routes. As I know you know, each position requires different skills and you don't have to be a big guy that goes over the middle to be the #1 WR.

And I don't really care if he's the #1 WR or not, they need to use him in a way that keeps him on the field and best uses his talents.

I had no idea the stat said that and I believe what you're telling me. But I've seen a lot of hits as the ball was getting there. So either the pass was early and he had to pull up (big possibility due to pressure on the QBs) or he wasn't getting enough to be able to make the catch AND protect himself. And this isn't just Olave. None of our guys get much separation and it seems like all passes are closely contested. I nearly never see our guys catching the ball in space.

 

[Snakehead]

That Panthers played pulled up on the hit. He was not head hunting. And frankly most guys are not going to do that in the modern NFL because they don't want to get fined. And if they get the rep for heat hunting, they are going to get more penalties and more and larger fines.

Newsflash. They don't care.

 

[DaveXA]

Lets not act like that Panthers player who concussed him wasn't headhunting. That was over the top ridiculous. I think now that he has a history, someone out there is gonna make a dirty play in the future.

What's worse is no penalty called on the play. Which was absolutely absurd.

 

[St. Widge]

I had no idea the stat said that and I believe what you're telling me. But I've seen a lot of hits as the ball was getting there. So either the pass was early and he had to pull up (big possibility due to pressure on the QBs) or he wasn't getting enough to be able to make the catch AND protect himself. And this isn't just Olave. None of our guys get much separation and it seems like all passes are closely contested. I nearly never see our guys catching the ball in space.

I hear you. I don't think it showed on the field, but I suspect that had to do with either the scheme, Carr, or the OL. I know that the KK system uses strict progression so it's possible that Olave was open and had great separation a lot when the read progression required Carr to look at other guys first. So, maybe it's the system. Problem is that I think the system works for Carr because it means he has to make fewer decisions.

But, maybe it's just a good reason to find a new OC and QB that will use one of our only weapons better. Olave is always going to be a guy that is more susceptible to injury than bigger guys, but he's also a weapon so they need to find a better way to use him whether we end up calling him a #1 WR or not. Frankly, I think #1 WR is something fans and media use more than teams. They put guys in roles that fit their skill sets and then run the offense. I think teams do sometimes scheme to get one guy open, but I don't know that you can't do that with a smaller guy. It's been done with Diggs and Tyreek Hill. I"m not sure either is what fans consider a #1 WR, but damn if they don't help you win games.

 

[Nolan]

What's worse is no penalty called on the play. Which was absolutely absurd.

I believe there was a penalty on that play. There was no penalty on the Bucs player who concussed him, however.

 

[St. Widge]

Newsflash. They don't care.

Newsflash. If they didn't care, they wouldn't bother appealing the fines. And it will lead to more 15 yard penalties so even if they don't care, their coaches will.