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The "what are you reading" thread gave me the idea to kick off a comic book discussion thread. I was kind of surprised that we didn't have one going already, seeing as we have a rather diverse crowd of comic lovers. So, to get this one going, I bring this news:

https://screenrant.com/superman-costume-action-comics/

And I couldn't be more excited by it! :)
 

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Basically looks like they've repurposed the work they already had done for 5G into a two month event so it won't go to waste. I'm fine with this. Some of it may be interesting but it won't be a full scale new status quo for the entire publishing line, which was always my problem with it.
 
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So this Future State stuff is going to be heavy on the politically correct agenda? If so, I may just pass until we get back to the regular stuff.
 

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So this Future State stuff is going to be heavy on the politically correct agenda? If so, I may just pass until we get back to the regular stuff.

What makes you say that?
 
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What makes you say that?
Saw a Youtube video earlier, was halfway paying attention. I think they were quoting from Cosmic Books News. Figured I'd ask here for accurate info.
 

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Cosmic Book News is a terrible site for one. It just might be worse than Bleeding Cool, which says a lot.

Secondly, politics has always been in comics for as long as I remember and before then. To say it won't be involved on some level is a fallacy. Is your concern that there's going to be a Black Batman and a Hispanic Wonder Woman, etc.?
 

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Cosmic Book News is a terrible site for one. It just might be worse than Bleeding Cool, which says a lot.

Secondly, politics has always been in comics for as long as I remember and before then. To say it won't be involved on some level is a fallacy. Is your concern that there's going to be a Black Batman and a Hispanic Wonder Woman, etc.?

Which I wouldn't have an issue with. It would be an adjustment for sure because I'm already used to the characters the way they are now. I'd rather expand the character universe though. I think new roles and powers would be better than recycled ones.

As for politics, it's always been present, but usually subtle. When it gets in your face obvious, then I quickly lose interest.
 
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Which I wouldn't have an issue with. It would be an adjustment for sure because I'm already used to the characters the way they are now. I'd rather expand the character universe though. I think new roles and powers would be better than recycled ones.

As for politics, it's always been present, but usually subtle. When it gets in your face obvious, then I quickly lose interest.
Yes, this. I have no issue with heroes of whatever race in comics and I understand that politics has always been present, but I don't want to be smacked in the face with it constantly. I read comics to escape the real world drama, not get deeper into it.
 

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If you're reading current DC, particularly Batman, you're probably getting a hint at what things might look like. John Ridley's story and Batman leading out of Joker War is dropping tidbits of what will be seen in Ridley's Batman.

Good thing for the traditionalists is that the regular heroes will still be around doing different things in different areas, on and off-world.
 

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Makes me wonder if DC is their own worse enemy. What happened at Midtown?


I do know a lot of retailers were really griping about UCS/Midtown early on, about everything from their online operations to damaged inventory but I haven't heard anything super recently.

I increasingly am not sure management at DC has any real idea what they're doing with this. It wouldn't shock me to see them end up back with Diamond after the pandemic settles down. I thought them leaving back in the spring would be a game changer for what had been an almost three decade long monopoly, but they seem to just be flailing around aimlessly with it now.
 

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To kinda keep on the "DC is doing too much" tangent, this was a decent interview with Tom King, which includes several examples of how DC editorial, in particular Dan DiDio, influenced, and many times overruled, the direction he wanted to take.

The one that really blew my mind is the story of DiDio reading about the death of Alfred from an LCS and calling King to tell him that he wanted Alfred to stay dead. What. In. The. Actual. fork...

 

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To kinda keep on the "DC is doing too much" tangent, this was a decent interview with Tom King, which includes several examples of how DC editorial, in particular Dan DiDio, influenced, and many times overruled, the direction he wanted to take.

The one that really blew my mind is the story of DiDio reading about the death of Alfred from an LCS and calling King to tell him that he wanted Alfred to stay dead. What. In. The. Actual. fork...


Gonna listen to this later, but what you've said just reinforces my idea that DiDio has some weird hangups/tendencies that almost seem Vince McMahon-like in their inexplicableness and rigidity.
 

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More blood letting at DC today. Remember when they promoted two co-EiCs to run the show? Well, one got fired already.

DC is going to look very different soon if what's being said is true. Stripped down. Way less focus on continuity and a shared universe, more on standalone stories, most of which will focus on Batman/Superman/WW. Major reduction in publishing. Way less emphasis on secondary characters. Also speculation that Jim Lee is kind of getting cut out of things (supposedly the new EiC doesn't even report to him, but directly to corporate).

Not looking great for DC at the moment. They tried to put a bow on these changes a couple of months back, but the reality is setting in now. Slash and burn job by AT*T.
 

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That's what they do.

They literally purchased WarnerMedia to then try and sell off or get rid of as much of it as they can to make up for the fact that they badly overleveraged themselves to buy the company in the first place.
 

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More blood letting at DC today. Remember when they promoted two co-EiCs to run the show? Well, one got fired already.

DC is going to look very different soon if what's being said is true. Stripped down. Way less focus on continuity and a shared universe, more on standalone stories, most of which will focus on Batman/Superman/WW. Major reduction in publishing. Way less emphasis on secondary characters. Also speculation that Jim Lee is kind of getting cut out of things (supposedly the new EiC doesn't even report to him, but directly to corporate).

Not looking great for DC at the moment. They tried to put a bow on these changes a couple of months back, but the reality is setting in now. Slash and burn job by AT*T.

I knew Javins got promoted, but didn't think it was in that manner.

Will say this. Jim Lee should be stripped of the publisher title. He does absolutely nothing within the organization to deserve it and you can see that from the fact that no one inside DC reports to him; not a single person.
 

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