COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (4 Viewers)

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From John Cho
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I called my parents a few nights ago to tell them to be cautious when stepping out of the house, because they might be targets of verbal or even physical abuse. It felt so strange. Our roles had flipped.

My plea mirrored the admonitions I received from them as a child growing up in Houston. The world, they cautioned, was hostile and it viewed us as strangers. So they warned me to stick close to my family. Close to my kind.

The fact that the coronavirus seems to have originated in China has spawned a slew of anti-Asian hate crimes. Across the country, Asian American parents and children are making versions of the call I made. Friends are sharing first-hand accounts of abuse on text chains and circulating articles on Facebook, always ending with the suddenly ominous “stay safe.”

Growing up, the assumption was that once we became American enough, there would be no need for such warnings — that we would be safe. To that end, my parents encouraged me and my younger brother to watch as much television as possible, so that we might learn to speak and act like the natives. The hope was that race would not disadvantage us — the next generation — if we played our cards right.

When I became an actor (maybe as a result of all that TV), and really started to work, I felt glimmers of my parents’ hope coming to fruition — doors were open, strangers were kinder. In some ways, I began to lead a life devoid of race. But I’ve learned that a moment always comes along to remind you that your race defines you above all else.......................

 
It might just be better if they add to the unemployment kitty. unless there are some folks not getting anything.

But, Certain sectors are crushed, based on unemployment data (realizing a large number didn't specify). Just for Florida.

Otherwise, I totally agree with you. I don't want free money just for the sake of it. So, is the problem that unemployment is moving too slow? Not enough? Or too many don't qualify that are impacted?

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I don't know what the current rules are, but back when I applied for unemployment benefits, I was told I didn't qualify, and they never explained why. There are a bunch of things that can disqualify you from unemployment benefits, so those getting rejected are in a real bind. I know I would be.

For 3 years I had very little income. So, I'll take all the help I can get so that I can pay down the debt I had built up at the time.

There are a lot of people who are stuck because they can't get unemployment benefits for whatever reason. Need to find a way to help them as well.

I could live with direct rent payments as well. The money I'd save from that would go directly to paying down my debt. I wouldn't need or want it if I didn't have any debt.
 
I don't think every American needs that money. You have a lot of people like me who have been unbelievably fortunate. I haven't lost any income and my wife is a SAHM so even when it's time to go back to the office I have no additional expenses. No sense in giving me something I don't need when it can go to others with a genuine need.

My opinion is to give more to the people who have lost work or have reduced hours because 2k won't touch what a lot of them have loss, even if it's in addition to unemployment. Instead of rent forgiveness pay the money to the landlords (you can leverage Sec 8 programs for distribution).

You can always set up tax credits for the rest of us if we have some kind of financial sting that's not as deep, but frankly I'm hearing so many stories from people really hurting, including people here, that I'd feel guilty getting 2k a month. I'm able to support myself and my adult children who are out of work right now, thank God. Not everyone is that fortunate.

Now if Uncle Sam wants to let me deduct what I've been giving the adult kids on my taxes next year because it took stress off the social welfare programs, count me in. ;)

I agree 100% with this. Even the part about your son. Mine is now doing his thing but, we’ll that’s once in the last 8 years.....
 
It might just be better if they add to the unemployment kitty. unless there are some folks not getting anything.

But, Certain sectors are crushed, based on unemployment data (realizing a large number didn't specify). Just for Florida.

Otherwise, I totally agree with you. I don't want free money just for the sake of it. So, is the problem that unemployment is moving too slow? Not enough? Or too many don't qualify that are impacted?

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The $600 federal contribution to unemployment works great for those of us who qualify. I'm worried about those who don't. Self employed people probably need something different but similar.
 
I don't know what the current rules are, but back when I applied for unemployment benefits, I was told I didn't qualify, and they never explained why. There are a bunch of things that can disqualify you from unemployment benefits, so those getting rejected are in a real bind. I know I would be.

For 3 years I had very little income. So, I'll take all the help I can get so that I can pay down the debt I had built up at the time.

There are a lot of people who are stuck because they can't get unemployment benefits for whatever reason. Need to find a way to help them as well.

I could live with direct rent payments as well. The money I'd save from that would go directly to paying down my debt. I wouldn't need or want it if I didn't have any debt.


I don't know all the unemployment rules either, but I think that people who are self-employed or have been working as independent contractors who can no longer do their jobs, don't qualify for unemployment. I think its one of the issues with the "gig economy" and with benefits and social safety nets being tied to jobs.
 
And that's the fix we're in. We all expect to feel some financial pain. But that pain is not evenly distributed. Another "what did you expect?" facepalm after decades of policy-driven wealth accumulation towards the very top. And what's considered "pain" varies from individual to individual, too, I'd imagine. McScrooge losing one nickel might cause more trauma than someone used to doing without losing much greater amounts. :shrug:

I wonder how much of that we've been brainwashed into just accepting. Know your place. :(
There's a lot of boot lickers who are worried about the billionaires.
 
 
Also some sad news for Louisiana that should help put this into perspective for some who think this is all overblown. Even with the social distancing and stay at home orders:

 
I don't know all the unemployment rules either, but I think that people who are self-employed or have been working as independent contractors who can no longer do their jobs, don't qualify for unemployment. I think its one of the issues with the "gig economy" and with benefits and social safety nets being tied to jobs.

Yep, I was previously a self employed minister and my income during that time couldn't be counted. That's pretty much what i was thinking, but wasn't sure if that was the same across all states or not.
 
I don't know all the unemployment rules either, but I think that people who are self-employed or have been working as independent contractors who can no longer do their jobs, don't qualify for unemployment. I think its one of the issues with the "gig economy" and with benefits and social safety nets being tied to jobs.

In the Beforetime, that was the case. But not now, under certain rules:

 
Several things: 1)The municipality in Maryland is Anne Arundel county which has a well-to-do population in a state that is overall on the high end of most of the social and economic bell curves, so rates of infection and mortality are likely lower there than many other areas of the US. 2) the US as a whole is less healthy than Australia with a much less effective chronic-care healthcare system.

The picture presented by the article sums up what happens to a first-world country with a broken healthcare system and an administration wholly unprepared for any sort of calamity, much less a pandemic that cuts across all geographical lines in ways that a natural disaster does not.

My 18 year-old son is already preparing for the eventuality of distance learning for his first year of college, in which case he’s going to take a gap year and start in 2021.

Screw it, let’s move to Australia. Reality in the US is that the current administration has no idea what it’s doing or how to control COVID.

You left out the part where Australians dont eat like crap which is a bigger problem than our healthcare system
 
You left out the part where Australians dont eat like crap which is a bigger problem than our healthcare system

Australia actually has the third highest rate of overweight adults in the English speaking world. Like 65% are overweight and nearly a third clinically obese and the numbers have been climbing rapidly in the past decade.
 
You left out the part where Australians dont eat like crap which is a bigger problem than our healthcare system

This is true, and that stems from massive corn and wheat subsidies and then encouraging people to eat that as that’s where the money flows. Anyway, while the American acute care is possibly the absolute best in the world if you can afford it, where the US health services tanks is on chronic care and let’s say less monetary efficient things. Put a cast on a bone and let it heal? When was the last time you heard that. How about surgery and pins to stabilize it so it heals faster?
 
This is true, and that stems from massive corn and wheat subsidies and then encouraging people to eat that as that’s where the money flows. Anyway, while the American acute care is possibly the absolute best in the world if you can afford it, where the US health services tanks is on chronic care and let’s say less monetary efficient things. Put a cast on a bone and let it heal? When was the last time you heard that. How about surgery and pins to stabilize it so it heals faster?

Again, the premise that Australians are paragons of health is incorrect. It's a fairly fat country. Australian men literally only rank behind American and Chilean (random) men in likelyhood of being overweight.
 
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