COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (4 Viewers)

[Dago]

Australia actually has the third highest rate of overweight adults in the English speaking world. Like 65% are overweight and nearly a third clinically obese and the numbers have been climbing rapidly in the past decade.

Didnt know that. Thanks

 

[St. Geezy]

Encouraging news for the New Orleans area:

I don't necessarily think this is the case here, but one worry I have about the guidelines for re-opening, and its terms, is that some states may start "cooking the books" a little.

Does anyone find it strange that suddenly our numbers, and a lot of other places numbers started turning downward right around the time the new guidelines were announced?

We have already seen just how easily it is to manipulate numbers if needed - see Louisiana weekend reported data trends.

 

[Wisco Steve]

I don't know all the unemployment rules either, but I think that people who are self-employed or have been working as independent contractors who can no longer do their jobs, don't qualify for unemployment. I think its one of the issues with the "gig economy" and with benefits and social safety nets being tied to jobs.

Every state might be a little different, but WI just yesterday opened up unemployment benefits to those folks that are independent contractors or people that are self employed. It appears to be some hoops to jump thru with qualifying but I am going to try, as my painting business has been entirely shut down.

 

[efil4stnias]

Every state might be a little different, but WI just yesterday opened up unemployment benefits to those folks that are independent contractors or people that are self employed. It appears to be some hoops to jump thru with qualifying but I am going to try, as my painting business has been entirely shut down.

here construction has been deemed "essential" so guys are still at it.

I hope you are granted the $$$$

 

[Saint_Ward]

Up to 2.7 Million in New York May Have Been Infected, Antibody Study Finds

Preliminary results from New York’s first coronavirus antibody study show nearly 14 percent tested positive, meaning they had the virus at some point and recovered, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday. That equates to 2.7 million infections statewide — more than 10 times the state’s confirmed cases...

www.nbcnewyork.com

This seems like a better study, since it was "random" testing (at quick glance).

Still would be approximately a 0.5% mortality rate, and that's low based on many deaths in homes not counted.

 

[DaveXA]

Every state might be a little different, but WI just yesterday opened up unemployment benefits to those folks that are independent contractors or people that are self employed. It appears to be some hoops to jump thru with qualifying but I am going to try, as my painting business has been entirely shut down.

While that may be true, this is a case of too little too late for a lot of people who might have qualified a year or two ago and no longer qualify now. But, it's good that some of the rules are being relaxed or changed now for those needing it currently.

 

[St. Widge]

In the Beforetime, that was the case. But not now, under certain rules:

In the long long ago?

 

[kat5s]

 

[saintmdterps]

You left out the part where Australians dont eat like crap which is a bigger problem than our healthcare system

In my mind the crap food served in the US is a conspiracy with health care to place as many citizens in the health care system for as long as possible. Why else should it cost so much to eat well?

 

[Saint_Ward]

'Florida Is a Terrible State to Be an Unemployed Person'

MIAMI -- After Ernst Virgile lost his job at the Fort Lauderdale airport, he sat up late at the computer in his living room night after night, trying to apply for unemployment, refreshing his browser again and again while his wife was sleeping.He worried about their three children, and about...

www.yahoo.com

Speaking of Unemployment and Florida.

 

[DaveXA]

'Florida Is a Terrible State to Be an Unemployed Person'

MIAMI -- After Ernst Virgile lost his job at the Fort Lauderdale airport, he sat up late at the computer in his living room night after night, trying to apply for unemployment, refreshing his browser again and again while his wife was sleeping.He worried about their three children, and about...

www.yahoo.com

Speaking of Unemployment and Florida.

Holy crap, that's terrible.

 

[Dago]

In my mind the crap food served in the US is a conspiracy with health care to place as many citizens in the health care system for as long as possible. Why else should it cost so much to eat well?

It doesnt cost a ton to eat healthy. I can make a healthy meal for far less than what people spend on combos at fast food places or pizza

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

 

[saintmdterps]

It doesnt cost a ton to eat healthy. I can make a healthy meal for far less than what people spend on combos at fast food places or pizza

Yeah but purchasing organic or otherwise healthier foods cost more than buying junk.

 

[Poison]

Again, the premise that Australians are paragons of health is incorrect. It's a fairly fat country. Australian men literally only rank behind American and Chilean (random) men in likelyhood of being overweight.

What’s your source for that? The list of countries by BMI has us tied at 43rd with Canada, behind the US (16) and the UK (39).

List of sovereign states by body mass index - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In my observation it is a lot easier to come across healthy food here and there is a more active culture (it’s not uncommon for people to play community sport into their late 30s). Which is not to say the healthcare system does not deal with a reasonably significant number of chronic illnesses, but I’d be surprised if it was on par with the US.

Diabetes does not seem as common and I legitimately cannot remember the last time I saw an overweight person using a mobility scooter, whereas in Florida that felt like the preferred means of non-vehicular transport.

I would have been inclined to agree that the general health of the population is better (not just in terms of chronic illness but also the ability to get access to a doctor earlier to avert the worsening of certain conditions), which may have been a factor in the fact we’ve only recorded 74 deaths to date where I understand the youngest to be a man in his 60s.

In saying that, there is obviously a lot of data to still be uncovered in relation to viral load, strain and optimal conditions for transmission. So who knows if any of that has played a part too.