COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (5 Viewers)

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People are using it to do normal home stuff they do every year. Things like planting flowers, shrubs, trees, etc, spreading out mulch and fertilizer. And more people are probably doing it themselves instead of paying someone because all of a sudden we have copious amounts of time. But none of this is "needed" or necessary. I guess as long as the numbers stay below the line, then it's all good.

I agree. I just try to get whatever I can delivered through Amazon or whoever to avoid going into stores. but I get that that isn't really possible with plants, trees, etc.
 
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It shouldn't be a big deal but with a large number of people unable to afford healthcare, and the anti vax crowd growing there's a small chance that this could be interesting.
PA. " There must be fewer than 50 new confirmed coronavirus cases per 100,000 residents in a region in a 14-day window for officials to consider easing restrictions." Okay, WHEN does the 14 day window start? And my county is lumped in with Philly and apparently this is regions, not counties. At this rate, construction will not be open for quite some time. I cannot work alone in an empty house. The store I work out of might have 10 walk in customers a day, and yet the Home Depot nearby remains open and sells the same product I work with. I think Michigan and PA are the only states that have these restrictions. Edited to add to the confusion of the info we are getting in PA. So it was just announced that golf courses will reopen on Friday. Just after they announced that they would not consider easing restrictions until the criteria is met. Its beyond maddening.
 
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I don’t want to seem judgmental, but curious to
See if there is a correlation between liberals and conservatives regarding wearing masks? More rural areas tend to lean Republican and might feel like this virus is not that big of a deal. And that our country should be reopened by now. Again, not trying to be rude, but wonder if there is any correlation.

Because our house was on the market, when the schools closed we left Charleston and went up to my parents' place on the NC coast. This county is 90% white and voted 70% for Trump- it's very Republican. It's also quite sparsely populated relative to the regional population centers.

I see masks in Wal-Mart and the grocery store on about half of the people - which actually a bit higher than I would have suspected. I think part of it is that it's an older county by median age, so it means there are people that are concerned about their own health risk.

But I also see many examples of poor social distancing - like boats with six or seven people on them that you know aren't from the same family (a boat full of teens or young adults for example). The local golf course is packed - mostly older groups of men and couples. The course makes each person have his/her own cart - unless you're married, which I suppose is sensible if your primary objective is to keep people more than six feet apart. And the bathrooms are closed.

That said, there's 27 cases in the county - and the pace of new cases is very slow. It's been steady just one or two here and there, and it's understandable that people don't worry too much about it. So beyond people's worldview or political disposition, there's also their local situation that informs their behavior.
 
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My wife went to Lowes in Gonzales on Saturday. She said it was the most cars she's ever seen at that location. It was like Lakeside shopping center during the Christmas rush. Oh, and maybe 25% of the folks had masks.

What good is it to have all of these small businesses closed for safety reasons, yet a big box store can reap the financial rewards and the virus (theoretically) can continue to spread amoungst the crowds. That's why I've somewhat taken a different look at this lately. If you are gonna shut down, do it for real. Otherwise, start opening back up in a controlled manner. If there's a concerning spike in cases where health care is getting swamped, take the necessary steps at that time. At this point, our "lockdown" is simply a half assed effort.
I actually agree. I say screw it and let whoever wants to open up, open because what I'm seeing in the South right now is beyond stupidity. End the PPP program and let's treat this like the flu since that's what so many want. Need to hurry up and get those cruise ships and concerts going too. I'm talking buffets, school buses, cruise ships, NFL games, the whole 9 yards. Let them die, them go bankrupt and then maybe they will finally realize they are stupid. It's seriously the best thing that could happen to our country for the long term.
 
Are your Academy stores not doing curbside? Ours all are.

When I went camping this weekend I had to hit a Wally in a pretty rural Texas town (Marble Falls) to get some lantern mantles. It was a huge culture shock. I'd say maybe 20% of people in the store had masks on (@Pocket Hercules) . The old dude in line in front of me had no mask and was openly coughing and making a half-hearted attempt to cover it. I said something fairly mild to him then backed off, but had I been the person in front of him (a middle aged lady who didn't seem to care), we would have had some words. Was a shock coming from Austin where close to 100% of people in stores have masks of some kind.

Always a stark reminder of the growing cultural divide between cities and rural areas. I don't think it's a healthy divide. I wish there were a way to bridge that gap. I know a lot of us on this board can exist either in a country or city setting, but we're weirdos.
 
I'm guessing not.
The fact that we aren't done with this virus already is enough stupidity on it's own. I actually think we'll be alright through the end of the summer. Sometime between Halloween and Christmas is when we this will all come to a head and we'll be looking at a complete collapse. I figure a couple weeks of psuedo normalcy is all the memory capacity the dumb will have to remember any social distancing measures and people will be doing the exact same things they were back in January.
 
The fact that we aren't done with this virus already is enough stupidity on it's own. I actually think we'll be alright through the end of the summer. Sometime between Halloween and Christmas is when we this will all come to a head and we'll be looking at a complete collapse. I figure a couple weeks of psuedo normalcy is all the memory capacity the dumb will have to remember any social distancing measures and people will be doing the exact same things they were back in January.

Texas is going to let the stay-at-home emergency order expire at the end of the month without extension. The strategy will shift to 'limited occupancy'.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) will let his stay-at-home order expire this month and allow all retailers, movie theaters, museums, libraries and some health-care businesses to reopen at limited occupancy as part of the first phase of the state’s reopening starting May 1.

 
It's a slow day today. Heh.

Same except I'm just having one of those days where it's really difficult to focus on work. I think it's because it's probably the nicest day of the year here today. I've gotten maybe 30 minutes of work done, which means I'll be working tonight because I actually have stuff to do. Ah well.
 
The Colorado stay home order ended yesterday, but Denver and the surrounding counties in the metro area are extending it until at least May 8. I think that's probably the way most states will be heading, where more densely populated urban areas will see more restrictions than less populated rural ones. One size needn't fit all.
 
DeWine laid out our reopening plan today and once again I feel like he's handling it extremely well.

"What we did today is a risk," DeWine said. "Doing nothing is a risk. With a decision like this, there is no easy decision - we have to balance. We will be criticized by those who think we shouldn't open up. We'll be criticized by those who think we didn't open up enough. I understand both arguments, but I think we found the sweet spot."
 
I'm afraid that this may not be the last we see this happening... https://www.thedailybeast.com/dr-lo...nes-of-coronavirus-reportedly-dies-by-suicide

An emergency room doctor who was on the front lines of the coronavirus outbreak in New York City died by suicide on Sunday, her father told The New York Times. Dr. Lorna M. Breen was the medical director of New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital’s emergency department, which was badly hit by the coronavirus. “She tried to do her job, and it killed her,” her father, Dr. Philip C. Breen, told the Times. According to Breen, she did not have a history of mental illness. Lorna, who contracted the coronavirus but went back to work after she recovered, died in her family’s home in Charlottesville, Virginia, where she was staying, her father said. “She was truly in the trenches of the front line,” he added. “Make sure she’s praised as a hero, because she was. She’s a casualty just as much as anyone else who has died.”
 
PA. " There must be fewer than 50 new confirmed coronavirus cases per 100,000 residents in a region in a 14-day window for officials to consider easing restrictions." Okay, WHEN does the 14 day window start? And my county is lumped in with Philly and apparently this is regions, not counties. At this rate, construction will not be open for quite some time. I cannot work alone in an empty house. The store I work out of might have 10 walk in customers a day, and yet the Home Depot nearby remains open and sells the same product I work with. I think Michigan and PA are the only states that have these restrictions. Edited to add to the confusion of the info we are getting in PA. So it was just announced that golf courses will reopen on Friday. Just after they announced that they would not consider easing restrictions until the criteria is met. Its beyond maddening.
I really don't understand the PA plan. The color coded map I saw lumps Delco in with Lancaster, Reading etc. Has to be wrong because Delco has way more cases than Chester County where I am. More importantly, all kinds of other work like utilities are going on. Those folks are not distancing, but they are outside, not working in confined spaces. I'm certainly no expert, but I can't figure out why construction projects can't resume when workers are working in separate spaces.
And Home Depot and Lowe's can sell flowers and plants, but nurseries can't?? Too much inconsistency is in evidence. Delaware, 20 minutes from me, is considerably more lax.
 
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