COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (2 Viewers)

[N.O.Bronco]

Predictable.

It’s the equivalent of storming the beach at an enemies strongest and preferred point of defense.

No matter how you rationalize it its never gonna make sense.

Next case study: what happens when you open before your peak and without adequate testing and no credible tracing system in site...Wish us luck!

 

[Dago]

Not saying you are wrong...looking for truth and clarification because I saw this earlier. Look at all the posts, not just the first

 

[DaveXA]

So much for the herd strategy right?

 

[DaveXA]

Not saying you are wrong...looking for truth and clarification because I saw this earlier. Look at all the posts, not just the first

Actually, natural immunity isnt a forgone conclusion just yet. There are reported cases of recurring illnesses from CV19, so it's an open question as to whether herd immunity will actually work. At least we have a guinea pig to observe. That said, I wonder what their health care system is looking like, and how it compares to ours.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Not saying you are wrong...looking for truth and clarification because I saw this earlier. Look at all the posts, not just the first

Perhaps better sourcing than a conspiracy theorist though?

Sweden COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Sweden Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Your graph seemingly ends literally a day before they had their two highest death rates(on a Sunday which is typically the lowest reported day). Also yours doesnt seem to be accurate.

 

[Dago]

Actually, natural immunity isnt a forgone conclusion just yet. There are reported cases of recurring illnesses from CV19, so it's an open question as to whether herd immunity will actually work. At least we have a guinea pig to observe. That said, I wonder what their health care system is looking like, and how it compares to ours.

Perhaps better sourcing than a conspiracy theorist though?

Sweden COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Sweden Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Your graph seemingly ends literally a day before they had their two highest death rates. Also yours doesnt seem to be accurate.

Like I said, I wasnt claiming it was right. I was interested in getting the truth of the matter.

And if I am being honest hoping my link was correct

 

[DaveXA]

Perhaps better sourcing than a conspiracy theorist though?

Sweden COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Sweden Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Your graph seemingly ends literally a day before they had their two highest death rates. Also doesnt seem to be accurate.

This is from your link. Holy crap. 69% of cases with an outcome is resulting in a fatality. That's far and away the worst I've seen posted by any nation. Can you imagine that figure in NYC?



For comparison purposes, the US closed cases figures.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

I’d actually make another comment about Sweden.

They actually seem like a very concerning case study.

As what they are doing is essentially what a lot of states are right about to do. Which is open back the doors with only some normative encouragement and minor but likely unenforceable guidelines.

And given Sweden is not a highly concentrated country, the fact that it is still spreading despite a culture and natural physically distant space is pretty concerning.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

This is from your link. Holy crap. 69% of cases with an outcome is resulting in a fatality. That's far and away the worst I've seen posted by any nation. Can you imagine that figure in NYC?

Honestly, I’d probably take that is a lack of testing and follow up from recovery. Seems like that is the percentage relative to recovered. It looks like they have had around 19k cases so far.

They still have an insane death rate but that could also be due to a lack of testing.

 

[Dago]

Perhaps better sourcing than a conspiracy theorist though?

Sweden COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Sweden Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Your graph seemingly ends literally a day before they had their two highest death rates(on a Sunday which is typically the lowest reported day). Also yours doesnt seem to be accurate.

I would say it is too soon to tell. The 25th and 26th were virtually no deaths and then there was an uptick on the 27th

Also, that article that was cited was 2 weeks old

 

[superchuck500]

Sara Nelson is president of the flight attendants union - I presume this is accurate.

 

[IntenseSaint]

I hope we focus more on antibody testing. it lets us know just how many have actually been infected and were pretty much asymptomatic, gives us a better indication of the true mortality rate, and also can let us work toward a herd immunity.

 

[DaveXA]

I would say it is too soon to tell. The 25th and 26th were virtually no deaths and then there was an uptick on the 27th

Also, that article that was cited was 2 weeks old

They may be having issues with reporting. If you look at the chart, there are wild swings day to day. I'm thinking they're coming in batches and their tallies aren't very accurate on a daily basis. Might be better to do a rolling 3 or 5 day count to smooth out the swings.

It's happening here when cases drop significantly on the weekends and picks back up during the week.

 

[superchuck500]

I hope we focus more on antibody testing. it lets us know just how many have actually been infected and were pretty much asymptomatic, gives us a better indication of the true mortality rate, and also can let us work toward a herd immunity.

That's clearly where this needs to go . . . which means they'll starting talking about it seriously in July or August.

 

[gboudx]

Wanted to put this in the humor thread but unfortunately it isn't a joke.

She was close to her goal. I remember that a lot of R's liked to call him "NObama". If she had just so cleverly slipped an "N" on the front of his first name, she would've won the rally.